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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:32 am

robert. wrote:Don't forget those guys are pushed by a greedy service manager.plus they are not paid anything near the hourly rate a dealer charges. Also many are forced to do recall work for free or a cut rate.call a plumber and see what he charges to replace a washer in your faucet. A 50 cent washer will cost you $150-200+


You need to find a better plumber, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Then again, maybe I should come by and charge you 1/2 that much, :mrgreen:

Last time I had a plumber out - to do a job that was slightly beyond my skills - I got the entire faucet replaced for less than that labor price you posted.

The faucet itself though was pricy, but not over regular retail; gouging folks on parts is risky these days since you look them up and confront that stuff.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:54 am

Robert, BH, and Rufus, It is particularly interesting for me to read these viewpoints of yours at this particular time in my car-buying history.

You see, guys, my 2015 Mercedes Benz ML has its lease expire in January. I like = love the car very, very much = no complaints; only praise, and am trying to decide what to do next. My options are, as I see it so far:

(a) Buy the ML outright, at lease end. This is how my wife and I have approached vehicle ownership for years now. That is, we lease a vehicle, and if it is wonderful (= trouble-free), we buy it. That is why my wife now owns her 2012 E-class, having originally leased it, in 2012, and as time went forward, having had no complaints whatsoever, she bought it. As of today, it has 2,000 mi. on it, only.

(b) I love my ML (7,000mi to date) and would buy it but am leery of what could happen after time. I keep mileage low, as you can see, only by happenstance, not any determined plan, so given that the vehicle is a Benz, what would I have to worry about, I wonder, as the years roll along and the miles acrue.

(c) I could keep it simple and just roll right into the next model for ML, leasing a 2017 or 2018, both of which our salesman at the dealership told me are available (he encouraged me to visit the dealership today or Saturday :? ) when he called yesterday. The only real reservation I have about getting a new one is that damsilly feature (which the salesman told me is the result of DOT/EPA-type [I forget which] regulations) that shuts the car OFF as soon as you stop it, like for a stop sign, traffic signal, or stop-n-go traffic, like in a funeral cortege, for example. The car would have a button, however, I'd have to flip every time I get in to start the car to disable the shut-off feature. :evil: :roll:

(d) Get nothing. Return the ML in January, and simply drive my wife's E-Benz. However, we do both like the independence of having two cars, but it's not essential for staying alive.

(e) Go to BMW to see what they have new. I had a 2004 and then a 2008 528i and loved them, but I switched from Beemers because of the convenience of using, at first, a Benz GLK (loved it!), and next the ML (more cubic storage space inside) for Layout Refinements needs; plus, as you may have gathered, I love excursions into the bear-infested forests of Upstate NY. :mrgreen:

Any bright ideas, guys? Wayne? Any other knowledgeable voices?
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Re: Car Thread

Postby rogruth » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:09 am

Murph,
Lots of luck.
Wish I had your problem. :D
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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:48 am

robert. wrote:Don't forget those guys are pushed by a greedy service manager.plus they are not paid anything near the hourly rate a dealer charges. Also many are forced to do recall work for free or a cut rate.call a plumber and see what he charges to replace a washer in your faucet. A 50 cent washer will cost you $150-200+


No argument here. They are a victim of greed also. More and faster work for less money.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:53 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:is why my wife now owns her 2012 E-class, having originally leased it, in 2012, and as time went forward, having had no complaints whatsoever, she bought it. As of today, it has 2,000 mi. on it, only.

(b) I love my ML (7,000mi to date) and would buy it but am leery of what could happen after time. I keep mileage low, as you can see, only by happenstance, not any determined plan, so given that the vehicle is a Benz, what would I have to worry about, I wonder, as the years roll along and the miles acrue.


I can't see how you'd have any problems with the E -- it hasn't been driven enough to find out if it has any - not even broken in yet!

7k on the ML -- really just about the same thing....

Ok, what's the warranty on the 2012 -- expired? Who services it?

What's the warranty on the ML if you buy it? If warrantied, for how long and after that do you have a good independent specialized mechanic?

Can you get an extended warranty through your insurance company - most of those can be rubbish, but we got our existing warranties on our vehicles extended 2-3 years through Geico. Saved me an easy $2k once with my Saab.

BTW, my 2011 Subaru is closing on 130k miles...........and as soon as it fell off warranty, over to the local guys round the corner that do excellent work at ~65% of dealer costs.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:17 pm

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This faucet was $398. Installed. 1 simple spigot. Friggin guys in the shop called a plumber while I was out of town. I almost fired the guy that called. $129. Service call. $165. Install. $98. Spigot and a few bucks for flex hose. I went through the roof. Then my international dealer charged me $84. To replace an $8. Turn signal bulb. I went through a he roof again. Now I need a roofer and I'm afraid of his price
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 pm

robert. wrote:This faucet was $398. Installed. 1 simple spigot. Friggin guys in the shop called a plumber while I was out of town. I almost fired the guy that called. $129. Service call. $165. Install. $98. Spigot and a few bucks for flex hose. I went through the roof.


Yes. Under a $100 job. Called the wrong plumber who recognized an opportunity to rip you off. Take it out of his pay; that's a job that almost anyone should be able to do........

Then my international dealer charged me $84. To replace an $8. Turn signal bulb. I went through a he roof again.


Steep. Just how hard is it to get to the socket to replace these bulbs? You nearly have to take apart the entire fenders to get to any of the bulbs in my Subaru - an owner simply can't change the bulbs anymore and you are at their mercy. I could just barely access the sockets in the front of my Saab - wrist and hand were almost too big.

Now I need a roofer and I'm afraid of his price


Shop around..............and get references...............and be on site when they work regardless of their reputation and ref's.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby robert. » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:42 pm

My roofer comment was a joke about going through the roof. I can't fire the guy he has been with me for 20 years. He feared that our septic tank would fill up. Although he could have turned off that water line. It makes bad vibes when you dock people's pay. It's really my fault for not making it clear to him. Turn signal was an easy fix. Reach under wheel well and unplug. Should have been a we'll catch you next time thing.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:00 pm

robert. wrote:My roofer comment was a joke about going through the roof. I can't fire the guy he has been with me for 20 years. He feared that our septic tank would fill up. Although he could have turned off that water line.


Just a teensy bit of initiative.........shut off valve under the sink.........although, if not used in a decade it might not work.

It makes bad vibes when you dock people's pay. It's really my fault for not making it clear to him.


You're out a big bill when you shouldn't be --> "Scare'm" Throw things...... Call them lollygaggers.....

Turn signal was an easy fix. Reach under wheel well and unplug. Should have been a we'll catch you next time thing.


Ok, sounds like you could have done that yourself.......probably. Dealer should have asked you and informed you of the cost if they did it. We can do it for XYZ or you can DIY for $8. My Saab dealer did that and sometimes the parts guy would just follow me out to the parking lot and do it for me. Benz mechanic would explain what and how and if I could, I would. Subaru is a mystery..... Limit to what I can work on now is my Model-F Cub. Relays and electronics on my JD mower are another mystery.....even to the mechanic.
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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:10 pm

robert. wrote:
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This faucet was $398. Installed. 1 simple spigot. Friggin guys in the shop called a plumber while I was out of town. I almost fired the guy that called. $129. Service call. $165. Install. $98. Spigot and a few bucks for flex hose. I went through the roof. Then my international dealer charged me $84. To replace an $8. Turn signal bulb. I went through a he roof again. Now I need a roofer and I'm afraid of his price


Totally understand on the employee situation. You have to be around or leave clear concise instructions as common sense isn't as common these days. Employees are the hardest part of running a business. His heart was in the right place, he just didn't think it through.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:54 pm

up148 wrote: ............the employee situation.


The beatings will continue until morale improves............
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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:59 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
up148 wrote: ............the employee situation.


The beatings will continue until morale improves............


Yes, that's the NK way of doing it. :D :D :D

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Re: Car Thread

Postby up148 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:03 pm

BTW, my 2011 Subaru is closing on 130k miles...........and as soon as it fell off warranty, over to the local guys round the corner that do excellent work at ~65% of dealer costs.


And it probably runs better or as good as it ever did. Can't go wrong with the guys who specialize in specific types of cars. They know a lot more than a dealer mechanic or manager from m,y experience.

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Re: Car Thread

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:40 pm

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
up148 wrote: ............the employee situation.


The beatings will continue until morale improves............


Yes, that's the NK way of doing it. :D :D :D


No, the NK way is, "Unhappy? We sentence you to be hung by the neck until you cheer up! Have a good day!"
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Re: Car Thread

Postby healey36 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:29 pm

A nice '51 Nash-Healey turned up at the Rocks meet:

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Attendance looked off a bit this year...lots of spectators but fewer cars. Weather was overcast and chilly...maybe too chilly for the advancing demographics of this crowd,

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