Coronavirus:

[chuck]

You trust the figures China gives out??????

You mean like the president did when he praised the premiere of China back in January instead of listening to his own intelligence community?

The democrats and the liberal media have been calling the republicans names for years
There is an old expression. "What goes around comes around" Turn about is fair play.

No one has stooped to the level this yoyo has. He has called fellow Republicans names like "Little Marco". He has attacked apolitical scientists, engineers, doctors, etc. They don't even have to say anything "bad" about him. If they don't bow down and scrape for him he throws a verbal temper tantrum calling them names and denigrating them. He has engaged in Twitter posts encouraging people to break quarantine and put themselves and everyone around them in jeopardy. Why? Because he doesn't give a sh*t about anyone but himself.

We need more folks like Capt. Moore!

Agreed, definitely.

[HONDO74]

I just know this will turn out to be Trumps fault per the libs

CDC Labs Were Contaminated, Delaying Coronavirus Testing, Officials Say
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-labs-were-co ... 03172.html

Sloppy laboratory practices at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention caused contamination that rendered the nation’s first coronavirus tests ineffective, federal officials confirmed Saturday.

Two of the three CDC laboratories in Atlanta that created the coronavirus test kits violated their own manufacturing standards, resulting in the agency sending tests that did not work to nearly all of the 100 state and local public health labs, according to the Food and Drug Administration.

Early on, the FDA, which oversees laboratory tests, sent Dr. Timothy Stenzel, chief of in vitro diagnostics and radiological health, to the CDC labs to assess the problem, several officials said. He found an astonishing lack of expertise in commercial manufacturing and learned that nobody was in charge of the entire process, they said.

Problems ranged from researchers entering and exiting the coronavirus laboratories without changing their coats, to test ingredients being assembled in the same room where researchers were working on positive coronavirus samples, officials said. Those practices made the tests sent to public health labs unusable because they were contaminated with the coronavirus, and produced some inconclusive results.

In a statement Saturday, a spokeswoman for the FDA, Stephanie Caccomo, said, “CDC did not manufacture its test consistent with its own protocol.”

The FDA confirmed its conclusions late this week after several media outlets requested public disclosure of its inquiry, which assuredly is part of a larger federal investigation into the CDC lab irregularities by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Forced to suspend the launch of a nationwide detection program for the coronavirus for a month, the CDC lost credibility as the nation’s leading public health agency and the country lost ground in ways that continue to haunt grieving families, the sick and the worried well from one state to the next.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Old news........and more than plenty of blame to go around.

Were not allowed to use China's or any other country's tests..... We lost weeks and probably months of time.

Last I checked the git sitting in the Oval office watching TV at the time claiming it was not a problem and would go away, and all be over by Easter was Trump.

BTW, have you even seen the the head of the CDC or HHS in public ---- guess who will get blamed for the lack of leadership and bad decision making - not the guy guilty of both.

[healey36]

We used to see the guy who heads HHS, Azar, but he got banished for not towing the orangutan's line. Still figure Pence ends up holding the bag on this one, eventually to be replaced by Nikki Haley going into the November election.

And where is that tower of intellect, Mark Meadows, Chief-of-Staff?

[E7]

No one has stooped to the level this yoyo has.

We can start with the Clintons. I'm sure if Ol' Hil were in there, everything would be just peachy!

[chuck]

We can start with the Clintons. I'm sure if Ol' Hil were in there, everything would be just peachy!

There has never been a presidential candidate let alone an actual president that has behaved as badly as our current occupant of the oval office. I remember first hand all the way back to Kennedy.

Even Nixon did not make public personally derogatory remarks about his "opponents" whomever they were, domestic or foreign.

None of them bragged about lying to a foreign leader as a way to make fun of him.

Made derogatory comments about a Vietnam war hero who was also a survivor of the Hanoi Hilton. Our commander in heel spurs sat out the conflict on a "medical exemption".

Every time we think he can't sink any lower, he does.

[E7]

There has never been a presidential candidate let alone an actual president that has behaved as badly as our current occupant of the oval office. I remember first hand all the way back to Kennedy.

Guess you forgot about Billy Boy getting a hummer from Monica Blewinsky!

My bad! I forgot that wasn't sex!

[HONDO74]

We can start with the Clintons. I'm sure if Ol' Hil were in there, everything would be just peachy!

There has never been a presidential candidate let alone an actual president that has behaved as badly as our current occupant of the oval office. I remember first hand all the way back to Kennedy.

Even Nixon did not make public personally derogatory remarks about his "opponents" whomever they were, domestic or foreign.

None of them bragged about lying to a foreign leader as a way to make fun of him.

Made derogatory comments about a Vietnam war hero who was also a survivor of the Hanoi Hilton. Our commander in heel spurs sat out the conflict on a "medical exemption".

Every time we think he can't sink any lower, he does.

Well Chuck you missed one of the best. Harry Truman. Not only did harry call a WW2 hero a SOB he fired him also.

And he was good at taking on the press also. Washington Post critic Paul Hume got Truman's steam up when he panned the singing of the president's daughter, Margaret, at a Constitution Hall performance.

"Someday I hope to meet you," Truman fumed in a 150-word handwritten letter. "When that happens, you'll need a new nose, a lot of beefsteak for black eyes and perhaps a supporter below.". Looks like Biden is following in Truman's footsteps wanting to take people outside and beat them up. '

"After Truman referred to something as 'Republican manure,' a prim and proper friend asked Mrs. Truman whether she could get Harry to do something about his language and stop using the word manure," recalled Theo Lippman Jr., a retired editorial writer for The Sun and author. "Mrs. Truman replied that it had taken her a lot of time to get her husband to use it in the first place."

According to historians, big fans of the f-word included Truman, Nixon and Presidents John F. kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.

Another controversial comment by Kennedy that displayed a lack of presidential civility arising from the crisis with Blough found its way into the New York Times.

"My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it until now," Kennedy said in published remarks.

Pierre Salinger, who had been JFK's press chief, explained that his boss often used profanity to "illustrate or underline a point."

Peter Lisagor, who had been Washington bureau of the Chicago Daily News, once described President Johnson's blue language as "rich, almost lyrical, Pedernales patois."

[chuck]

When did any of those people say, on tape, anything like this:

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Calling someone an SOB is not the same thing as making up 3rd grade recess nicknames and using them in public. This is not how an "adult" is supposed to act, let alone the president.

Is this how you behave? Is this how you would want your children to behave. Would you be happy/pleased is someone used that kind of language on your spouse, your parents, your children? This is a total lack of civility and should be unacceptable behavior.

[robert.]

Trump has one good quality. He is showing us how F**ked up our government can be.

[HONDO74]

When did any of those people say, on tape, anything like this:

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Trump said that in 2005. 11 years before he became president. I thought we were talking about what they said when they ARE the president.

Obama caught on a hot mic
When President Obama met with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in Seoul on March, 26, 2012 a live microphone picked up a whispered conversation in which Obama told Medvedev to tell Putin that Obama would "have more flexibility" after his re-election.

Obama told Medvedev it was important for incoming President Vladimir Putin to "give me space" on missile defense and other difficult issues and that after the 2012 presidential election he would have "more flexibility." Medvedev said he would "transmit" the message to Putin.

“This is my last election," Obama said. "After my election I have more flexibility.” “I understand," Medvedev said. "I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

[HONDO74]

Trump has one good quality. He is showing us how F**ked up our government can be.

You forgot PELOSIE and SCHUMER along with the rest of congress

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Trump has one good quality. He is showing us how F**ked up our government can be.

Just like good-taste, class and reserve cannot be legislated nor taught.

[chuck]

I thought we were talking about what they said when they ARE the president.

An open mic is bad but it's nothing compared to having a guy with a shoulder mounted camcorder tracking your every move AND that has a small but very bright red LED telling you when he is recording. For someone as "experienced" as he says he is how could he not have been aware of that. He was, he just didn't care.

He has behaved this way his entire life. He is continuing to behave this way. This is who he really is. He makes excuses and dodges responsibility every chance he gets.

What I can't understand is why people like you continue to make excuses for this kind of behavior. Is this how you behave? Is this how you would like to be treated or how you would like your family members to be treated?

[HONDO74]

What I can't understand is why people like you continue to make excuses for this kind of behavior. Is this how you behave? Is this how you would like to be treated or how you would like your family members to be treated?

How do you figure that I am making excuses. I'm just pointing out they all have behavior problems. Even Biden has been accused of sexual assault and getting his hands all over women and young girls.

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"Is this how you behave?" That's an interesting accusation just because I don't see things the same way you do. I thought we were all entitled to our opinions.

So I guess I can ask you the same question. Will you be making excuses for Biden for his past behavior since he will be the only choice you have to vote for.