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Re: Electric cars

Postby robert. » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:10 am

Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”
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Re: Electric cars

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:26 am

robert. wrote:Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”


Family had a Dodge Dart; complete piece of junk that fell apart.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:28 am

v8vega wrote: All the electronics on electric cars are bound to give trouble.


I'm leery of all the electronics on combustion powered cars!
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Re: Electric cars

Postby Mitch » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am

robert. wrote:Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”


My Mom bought a new Plymouth Valiant (Dodge Dart clone) in '76. The slant 6/auto was phenomenal on fuel for the time. Other than plugs a few time and a belt replacement at about 100K, (normal maintenance), it went 140K before the torque converter failed in the tranny. Back then, Dad went to Converter World, (a $30 part and transmissions were what Dad did) and it went back on the road 'til Mom traded it on a new '84 Plymouth Reliant K car. She gave it to my son in '97 and he smacked it up, but it had been a good car too.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby Mitch » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
v8vega wrote: All the electronics on electric cars are bound to give trouble.


I'm leery of all the electronics on combustion powered cars!


I'm leery of all the electronics on any friggin' vehicle today. I specialized in auto electric at the dealership but the new Jeep Grand Wagoneer and the Grand Cherokee are what made me retire earlier than I was going to. These vehicles have a brand new communications bus system called Atlantis High, where all the modules in the vehicle communicate on the same wires instead of having CAN C for the super high speed and CAN IHS for the other interior systems. Atlantis determines what in the car have priority when there's a problem. When I saw the full Grand Wagoneer wiring harness laid out in the Chrysler schematics, I knew it was time for me to go. There had to be about 300 electrical connectors along that harness, and can you imagine 60 plus on board control modules depending on the options? What could possibly go wrong? I check back in at the dealership every now and again, and sure enough, there's problems.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby robert. » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
v8vega wrote: All the electronics on electric cars are bound to give trouble.


I'm leery of all the electronics on combustion powered cars!

Biggest problem with my 95 cobra. All the plastic connectors are failing. A few electronic parts fail structurally. Lot of this stuff can’t handle an automotive environment. Heat, cold, vibration, road salt, and petroleum products
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Re: Electric cars

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:36 am

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Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
v8vega wrote: All the electronics on electric cars are bound to give trouble.


I'm leery of all the electronics on combustion powered cars!

Biggest problem with my 95 cobra. All the plastic connectors are failing. A few electronic parts fail structurally. Lot of this stuff can’t handle an automotive environment. Heat, cold, vibration, road salt, and petroleum products


I would fully expect plastic stuff to be failing in a car over 20 years old.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby robert. » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:57 am

Those electric parts were failing by the second year. The plastic plugs lasted longer.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby up148 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:04 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”


Family had a Dodge Dart; complete piece of junk that fell apart.



We had three darts. 1963, 1966 and finally a 67. The 63 had the bulletproof slant 6 and 3 on the tree, the others were 273 V/8 and automatics. The 63 turned into a school driver for my sister and I and went through h*ll, but it always continued to run and went for well over 100K back in the 60's. Not sure of the others, but I didn't consider them junk. Chrysler products were never a plush ride at the low end, but generally considered mechanically sound cars.

My dad bought a 1960 ford Falcon and that was junk.

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Re: Electric cars

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:21 pm

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”


Family had a Dodge Dart; complete piece of junk that fell apart.



We had three darts. 1963, 1966 and finally a 67. The 63 had the bulletproof slant 6 and 3 on the tree, the others were 273 V/8 and automatics. The 63 turned into a school driver for my sister and I and went through h*ll, but it always continued to run and went for well over 100K back in the 60's. Not sure of the others, but I didn't consider them junk. Chrysler products were never a plush ride at the low end, but generally considered mechanically sound cars.


Body on ours literally rotted apart. Never got anywhere close to 100k miles.

My dad bought a 1960 ford Falcon and that was junk.


We had one of those as well; it was junk, too. But it did not fall apart, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Electric cars

Postby healey36 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:26 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:Meanwhile somewhere in a barn is a 70’s Dodge Dart snickering. Thinking to its self “ Do you miss me now?”


Family had a Dodge Dart; complete piece of junk that fell apart.

The last rev of the Dart was a joint venture with Alfa. I guy down the street had one and it seemed a lively little car. It died early, however, but not for any reason you might be thinking...a drunk came through the neighborhood one night a few years back and sideswiped the poor thing while it was parked on the street. Pretty much removed all the sheet-metal, trim, and glass on one side, bumper-to-bumper. Totaled.

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Re: Electric cars

Postby v8vega » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:50 pm

Buying a electric car now kind of seems like buying a computer 20 years ago where it was obsolete by the time you got it home. Yet I'm sort of considering it.

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Re: Electric cars

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:09 pm

v8vega wrote:Buying a electric car now kind of seems like buying a computer 20 years ago where it was obsolete by the time you got it home.


That's why mine are custom built for me to minimize that effect.

Yet I'm sort of considering it.


If I get another car, I suspect that'll be my only possible choice.....as much as I might want what might be "vintage" by then, the impracticability of that vs. my age will be the deciding variables
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Re: Electric cars

Postby robert. » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:33 pm

A friend's father was saying the same thing basically. He's 74 years old. He can't work on today's gas powered cars. He won't drive cross country and if the battery catches fire. Then his grandkids can sue the maker :D :D The longest drive he'll do now is to his weekend house in Troy PA. That's about 175 miles each way.
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Re: Electric cars

Postby up148 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:54 pm

A great deal of the American cars built in the 70's rusted out quickly and were made cheaply....some were real turds. This is when Honda, Toyota and Datsun made some serious headway into the american market. We had a 83' Accord (1st new car) and it was a great car until some fool rear ended us.


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