Coronavirus:

[HONDO74]

If some public and medical authorities want everybody to "stay home," who is going to harvest the crops ?

In these current conditions nobody. California's crop growers were on tv last night. Begging for help. Nobody wants to work for $2.00 an hour with a health risk of corona. Legal migrant workers can not come into the usa without a 14 day quarantine but don't worry. we can buy more veggies from china!

You mean MEXICO, CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA. That's the labels I see on vegetables at the market and Walmart. Have not seen any with CHINA on them.

[robert.]

look at frozen veggie bags.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

If some public and medical authorities want everybody to "stay home," who is going to harvest the crops ?

It's a logistical issue getting workers into the fields and back - that can be solved.

Should be room harvesting to spread out.

It's just takes thinking and changing the routine. Probably less efficient and lower harvest levels, but some could be salvaged.

Real problem here is that it entails actual change and that there is resistance to change.

1st thing everyone needs to learn from this pandemic is that nothing will be the same and that there will be lasting changes as to how we do everything.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Nobody wants to work for $2.00 an hour....

Pretty sure in CA and other states in the US that's just a wee bit low.

[robert.]

Nobody wants to work for $2.00 an hour....

Pretty sure in CA and other states in the US that's just a wee bit low.

You are right. A quick search shows $10.00-14.00. Im shocked. I always thought the paid peanuts.

[healey36]

1st thing everyone needs to learn from this pandemic is that nothing will be the same and that there will be lasting changes as to how we do everything.

Man, I hope so. Everything you read/hear is folks pleading for things to go back to "normal".

[robert.]

Many people have short memories. The ones that don't will make it. In a year most people will have run up their credit cards to max. we will be back to consuming large amounts of things we don't need. there will be the ninth or tenth amendment to the relief bill. Giving politicians the ability to dip their hands in billions of unused monies.

[HONDO74]

Nobody wants to work for $2.00 an hour....

Pretty sure in CA and other states in the US that's just a wee bit low.

You are right. A quick search shows $10.00-14.00. Im shocked. I always thought the paid peanuts.

In 1962 Cesar Chavez founded the National Farm Workers Association, later to become the United Farm Workers

Before that they did pay peanuts. If they only paid $2 per hour the migrants and illegals would stay in Mexico. They get the high pay here and send it to there home in Mexico.And they can get free education for any children with them along with free medical and other benefits.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I saw in the News this morning that a woman in India who has just had two babies has named them: the girl: Corona; the boy: Covid.

That is beyond my understanding. Perhaps, somebody here can enlighten me, if you wish.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

If some public and medical authorities want everybody to "stay home," who is going to harvest the crops ?

It's a logistical issue getting workers into the fields and back - that can be solved.

Should be room harvesting to spread out.

It's just takes thinking and changing the routine. Probably less efficient and lower harvest levels, but some could be salvaged.

Real problem here is that it entails actual change and that there is resistance to change.

1st thing everyone needs to learn from this pandemic is that nothing will be the same and that there will be lasting changes as to how we do everything.

In my observation, if all the crops cannot be harvested as they need to be, the effect will be on:
+the farmers
+food companies that turn the food into products.
+exports.
+truckers.
+farm equipment manufacturers and their employees....

...to say the least...there must certainly be much. much more that would be affected.
Murph

[Rufus T. Firefly]

...there must certainly be much. much more that would be affected.

Yes. That guy looking at you in the mirror will get affected. I bought avocados for my wife; usually $1 each - they are now 2/$5. Yet, tomatoes were discounted so those must be move them out before they go bad. No eggs and no paper goods on any kind, yet everything else was in stock - deli was closed.

Fortunately, gas for the car is pushing under $2/gallon....but of course, where do you need to go.......oh, the bank - deposited a check today - drive through w/o human contact.....except that the tube with the paper gets handled by everyone,

Everything is going to change and there will be a new normal; we just have no idea what that is.......and there's why a lot of the market is down - they've finally come to grips with a lastly uncertainty.

[HONDO74]

...there must certainly be much. much more that would be affected.

Yes. That guy looking at you in the mirror will get affected. I bought avocados for my wife; usually $1 each - they are now 2/$5. Yet, tomatoes were discounted so those must be move them out before they go bad. No eggs and no paper goods on any kind, yet everything else was in stock - deli was closed.

Fortunately, gas for the car is pushing under $2/gallon....but of course, where do you need to go.......oh, the bank - deposited a check today - drive through w/o human contact.....except that the tube with the paper gets handled by everyone,

Everything is going to change and there will be a new normal; we just have no idea what that is.......and there's why a lot of the market is down - they've finally come to grips with a lastly uncertainty.

Should be interesting to see how the world reacts to dealing with China after this is over. This it the second time the world has been infected by a virus from China since 2003. The sars virus spread to over 8,000 people worldwide and killed almost 800. Apparently not deadly enough for the world to react quickly to contain this one.

In 2003 we weren't dealing with the economic crisis like this time. In 2008 it was an economic crisis. This time we are getting a double wammy.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

...there must certainly be much. much more that would be affected.

Yes. That guy looking at you in the mirror will get affected. I bought avocados for my wife; usually $1 each - they are now 2/$5. Yet, tomatoes were discounted so those must be move them out before they go bad. No eggs and no paper goods on any kind, yet everything else was in stock - deli was closed.

Fortunately, gas for the car is pushing under $2/gallon....but of course, where do you need to go.......oh, the bank - deposited a check today - drive through w/o human contact.....except that the tube with the paper gets handled by everyone,

Everything is going to change and there will be a new normal; we just have no idea what that is.......and there's why a lot of the market is down - they've finally come to grips with a lastly uncertainty.

Should be interesting to see how the world reacts to dealing with China after this is over. This it the second time the world has been infected by a virus from China since 2003. The sars virus spread to over 8,000 people worldwide and killed almost 800. Apparently not deadly enough for the world to react quickly to contain this one.

Pretty good odds that China will come out ahead on economy.

In 2003 we weren't dealing with the economic crisis like this time. In 2008 it was an economic crisis. This time we are getting a double wammy.

We could have prevented most of the former and controlled the latter. No will and no leadership gets you to failure town.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Good day today!

Got out to the gym.................which is the firewood log pile out back. Axe, hammer & 3 wedges and time ='s several wheelbarrow loads of split maple and poplar.

Got to start working off that winter flab,

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Pace yourself. Please.