Whatzit?

[webenda]

Have you? Are you recommending a look-see?

I have and I recommend an understanding of Islam.

Muhammed was born in Mecca and learned about Christianity as a teenager.

The first thing that caught my attention was that Muhammed said that the people did not understand Jesus's teachings and he set about to correct the situation. When you begin to study the Qur’an (documented between 609-652 AD) and the Gospel (documented between 30-80 AD) you learn that Muhammad and Jesus taught about many of the same virtues and values. One of the strongest similarities between what Muhammad and Jesus taught was how we are to love God above all other things and then each other. The idol worshipers in Mecca did not like Muhammad speaking against their idols and attempted to arrest him but he escaped to Medina.

In Medina Muhammad changed methods and took up the sword. Soon he went back to Mecca with 10,000 warriors, conquered the city and destroyed their idols.

You can find what God thinks about idols in Exodus 20:1-6 (New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition)

The Ten Commandments

20 Then God spoke all these words:

2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; 3 you shall have no other gods before me.

4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, 6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Nice to know. Thanks.

[gregj410]

When you begin to study the Qur’an (documented between 609-652 AD) and the Gospel (documented between 30-80 AD) you learn that Muhammad and Jesus taught about many of the same virtues and values.

If they are similar, why not go with the teachings of Jesus? Is he not the son of God? If so, than wouldn’t studying the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur’an fall under “you shall have no other Gods before me?”

Only until I’ve read the Bible from front to back could I ever entertain studying the Qur’an and that will likely never happen. However if the teachings are similar, I’ll go with the teachings of the Son of God.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Beautifully and succinctly put, sir. I'm with you in this regard.

[rogruth]

I repeat.

The best and fastest way to lose friends is to talk with your friends about religion, politics and sexual exploits.

Please be careful.

[chuck]

The best and fastest way to lose friends is to talk with your friends about religion, politics and sexual exploits.

While that is very true it also doesn't leave much else to talk about except possibly the weather?

BTW based on several threads scattered over this form and several others you should add "toy rains" to the big three.

BBTW consider adding Ford versus Chevy versus Chrysler (or whatever they are calling themselves today), along with Coke versus Pepsi, ......

[rogruth]

I usually know who I can talk with about those subjects among old personal friends
but it is difficult to talk about those things with members of MTJ. I don't know
any of you on a really personal basis. I am reluctant to challenge anyone about
their religious or political beliefs.

[gregj410]

I am reluctant to challenge anyone about
their religious or political beliefs.

FWIW, I was not challenging Wayne, this guy is just to sharp and way out of my league on too many topics. I was simply stating why I would choose the teachings of Jesus over the Qur’an. I take no exception over he or others reading the Qur’an.

[robert.]

I’ll make it easier for you guys. You can study the teachings of ROBERT. On simple book. It’s titled Don’t be a dick. Only a few easy pages to read with one question. I might be a dick if i___________. You fill in the blanks. I might be a dick if i pick my neighbor’s flowers. No fights no wars bo arguments. Don’t be a dick by ROBERT.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I’ll make it easier for you guys. You can study the teachings of ROBERT. On simple book. It’s titled Don’t be a dick. Only a few easy pages to read with one question. I might be a dick if i___________. You fill in the blanks. I might be a dick if i pick my neighbor’s flowers. No fights no wars bo arguments. Don’t be a dick by ROBERT.

Won't work; too subjective. We have far too many people that are incapable of comprehending that they might be a dick and just believe everyone else is...

[rogruth]

I am reluctant to challenge anyone about
their religious or political beliefs.

FWIW, I was not challenging Wayne, this guy is just to sharp and way out of my league on too many topics. I was simply stating why I would choose the teachings of Jesus over the Qur’an. I take no exception over he or others reading the Qur’an.

Greg,
I did not mean to imply that you were challenging anyone. Just stating my position. There is too much I don't know.

[gregj410]

I’ll make it easier for you guys. You can study the teachings of ROBERT. On simple book. It’s titled Don’t be a dick. Only a few easy pages to read with one question. I might be a dick if i___________. You fill in the blanks. I might be a dick if i pick my neighbor’s flowers. No fights no wars bo arguments. Don’t be a dick by ROBERT.

Won't work; too subjective. We have far too many people that are incapable of comprehending that they might be a dick and just believe everyone else is...

What if you’re a dick and you’re okay being a dick ?

[gregj410]

I am reluctant to challenge anyone about
their religious or political beliefs.

FWIW, I was not challenging Wayne, this guy is just to sharp and way out of my league on too many topics. I was simply stating why I would choose the teachings of Jesus over the Qur’an. I take no exception over he or others reading the Qur’an.

Greg,
I did not mean to imply that you were challenging anyone. Just stating my position. There is too much I don't know.

I didn’t take it that way Roger

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I’ll make it easier for you guys. You can study the teachings of ROBERT. On simple book. It’s titled Don’t be a dick. Only a few easy pages to read with one question. I might be a dick if i___________. You fill in the blanks. I might be a dick if i pick my neighbor’s flowers. No fights no wars bo arguments. Don’t be a dick by ROBERT.

Won't work; too subjective. We have far too many people that are incapable of comprehending that they might be a dick and just believe everyone else is...

What if you’re a dick and you’re okay being a dick ?

Truly sad, if so. But in part, that was what I was describing along with those afflicted with chronic ignorance of their own condition. There seems an increase in this behavior as well -- probably linked to the pandemic......

[webenda]

When you begin to study the Qur’an (documented between 609-652 AD) and the Gospel (documented between 30-80 AD) you learn that Muhammad and Jesus taught about many of the same virtues and values.

If they are similar, why not go with the teachings of Jesus?

That is what most of the world does (at least statistically.)

Is he not the son of God? If so, than wouldn’t studying the teachings of Muhammad and the Qur’an fall under “you shall have no other Gods before me?”

The Bible often calls Jesus “the Son of God.” (John 1:49) The expression “Son of God” acknowledges that God is the Creator, or Source, of all life, including that of Jesus. (Psalm 36:9; Revelation 4:11) The Bible does not teach that God literally fathered a child in the same way that humans produce children.

The Bible also calls the angels “sons of the true God.” (Job 1:6) And the Bible says that the first human, Adam, was a “son of God.” (Luke 3:38) However, because Jesus was God’s first creation and the only one created directly by him, the Bible describes Jesus as the foremost Son of God.
Reference: Colossians 1:15, 16

In the Bible as well as in the Quran, God speaks to Moses near the holy ground of the Burning Bush after he is asked to remove his sandals (Quran, 20:12-13). God says, "“I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham..." Both religions have faith in the same god.

Names of God => https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... es-of-god/

Only until I’ve read the Bible from front to back could I ever entertain studying the Qur’an and that will likely never happen. However if the teachings are similar, I’ll go with the teachings of the Son of God.

You are wise.