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Re: Northern weather

Postby healey36 » Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:03 pm

HONDO74 wrote:...for when they get put out of business.

:lol: Hondo, you and I will have six feet of dirt piled on us long before those guys get put out of business. My kids might have six feet of dirt piled on them too before that happens (although I don't think anyone after our generation plans on being buried).

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Re: Northern weather

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:57 pm

healey36 wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:...for when they get put out of business.

:lol: Hondo, you and I will have six feet of dirt piled on us long before those guys get put out of business. My kids might have six feet of dirt piled on them too before that happens (although I don't think anyone after our generation plans on being buried).


I've never understood sympathy for the oil companies. Exxon, Chevron and Shell made more than $100 Billion last quarter...... They'll be out of business right after the sun winks out.
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Re: Northern weather

Postby E7 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:16 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I've never understood sympathy for the oil companies. Exxon, Chevron and Shell made more than $100 Billion last quarter...... They'll be out of business right after the sun winks out.


....and what about that HUGE Ghawar oil field under Saudi Arabia? Is the rest of the world going all in on electric vehicles? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the answer.

As for cleaning up things, a friend that I worked with for several years always said: "Man will drown in his own $hit."

The almighty dollar or (name your currency) will win every time!

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Re: Northern weather

Postby robert. » Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:57 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
E7 wrote:I saw my first gas priced under $4 yesterday.


Odd. Must be something going on over in your county in PA - local gouging. Was just there Fri & Sat. Over in Franklin Co. it's been under $4 since July unless you're really stupid and buy it right off Rt 81. Go a few miles and it's $3.50-3.79 depending on who's trying to gouge // undercut the other guy.

Then again, the oil companies need their record profits to buy back their stock.....

Not under $4.00 in Bucks. $4.05 yesterday. Sheetz had a diesel promo $4.49 all month. Mid August i saw gas south of route 30 for $4.06 while it was $4.19 in Bucks. That wad a Liberty station in Bucks. They pump it.
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Re: Northern weather

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:29 am

robert. wrote:Not under $4.00 in Bucks. $4.05 yesterday. Sheetz had a diesel promo $4.49 all month. Mid August i saw gas south of route 30 for $4.06 while it was $4.19 in Bucks. That wad a Liberty station in Bucks. They pump it.


Bucks Co. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Northern weather

Postby healey36 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:09 am

I'll be up for an electric vehicle once a few things happen: (1) decent models are available in the $25000-$30000 price range; (2) true range is consistently 300 miles or thereabouts (highway speed, a/c on); (3) the charging process is thirty minutes or less; (4) there's a plethora of charging stations and the grid can support the transition. Until then, it's internal combustion or a hybrid for me.

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Re: Northern weather

Postby v8vega » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:00 am

Either you're really young or forget electric cars then.

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Re: Northern weather

Postby E7 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:35 am

robert. wrote:Sheetz had a diesel promo $4.49 all month.


Cheaper than I can get fuel oil around here. There is no tax on fuel oil.

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Re: Northern weather

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:01 am

healey36 wrote:I'll be up for an electric vehicle once a few things happen: (1) decent models are available in the $25000-$30000 price range; (2) true range is consistently 300 miles or thereabouts (highway speed, a/c on); (3) the charging process is thirty minutes or less; (4) there's a plethora of charging stations and the grid can support the transition. Until then, it's internal combustion or a hybrid for me.


Was watching Mary Barra this morning; if you think that GM is "decent" ( :roll: ???), then I think what GM is claiming will check all the boxes except for the grid itself next year. But it's been "next year" for several years now.... GM also has a partnership with as company to install charging stations.

Go around back of Royal Farms - charging stations.....

Still, this is much like the evolution of the automobile - range and gas stations were not in full development keeping pace with the cars......
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Re: Northern weather

Postby E7 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:22 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Go around back of Royal Farms - charging stations.....


There have been 2 at the local grocery where I shop for quite a while. I have actually seen the occasional car? charging up there!

Nothing has blown up yet, but I wouldn't park too close! :mrgreen:

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Re: Northern weather

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:45 pm

E7 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Go around back of Royal Farms - charging stations.....


There have been 2 at the local grocery where I shop for quite a while. I have actually seen the occasional car? charging up there!

Nothing has blown up yet, but I wouldn't park too close! :mrgreen:


I've seen more gas powered vehicles on fire. In fact, far too frequently - what's going on with that?

BTW, $3.85 in Quincy today...
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Re: Northern weather

Postby healey36 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:24 pm

v8vega wrote:Either you're really young or forget electric cars then.

I think the tech is advancing faster than you realize, so price and operational range will likely be attractive soon. The infrastructure bit is the question. I think the funding is largely there; the question is will the oil lobby get in the way causing much to be squandered.

We're supposed to get nailed by some heavy rain Sunday-into-Monday (residual of Earl as it passes?). We're still an inch or so behind average, so we can stand it.

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Re: Northern weather

Postby E7 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:49 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I've seen more gas powered vehicles on fire. In fact, far too frequently - what's going on with that?

BTW, $3.85 in Quincy today...


Gasoline fumes are highly explosive, even more so than the liquid form. Dang dangerous stuff, and you don't want to get it on your skin.

I think it's a pretty good rule of thumb that you don't want to be messing with ANY petroleum product.

I have seen a video of an electric car at charging station catching on fire, and taking out 2 other EV's that were charging beside it. They appeared to be one or two feet apart. Happened really fast (unless the vid was speeded up).

Finally saw $3.84 where I gas up!

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Re: Northern weather

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:56 pm

E7 wrote:Gasoline fumes are highly explosive, even more so than the liquid form. Dang dangerous stuff, and you don't want to get it on your skin.

I think it's a pretty good rule of thumb that you don't want to be messing with ANY petroleum product.


Too late given my past career; way too, too late, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have seen a video of an electric car at charging station catching on fire, and taking out 2 other EV's that were charging beside it. They appeared to be one or two feet apart. Happened really fast (unless the vid was speeded up)
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Probably have seen the same one, but I see burnt cars on the side of the road way more often, and I hear car-b-que on the radio traffic reports even more often. I think that the battery stuff is over-sensationalized by the media and then puffed up even more by the oil lobby.
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Re: Northern weather

Postby E7 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:06 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Probably have seen the same one, but I see burnt cars on the side of the road way more often, and I hear car-b-que on the radio traffic reports even more often. I think that the battery stuff is over-sensationalized by the media and then puffed up even more by the oil lobby.


I think it's a pretty safe bet that whatever the case, if it can burn, sooner or later it will! :lol: :lol: :lol:

It might prove VERY interesting to see how the battery/oil rivalry evolves. Makes me think of the title of that movie: "There Will Be Blood!" :lol: :lol: :lol:


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