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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:55 pm

Hackberry!
That a life will be spent gaining inches,
When this distance is read in miles.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:21 pm

F!
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Good on the leaflets, bad on the leaf.
Hackberry leaves have alternate leaflets, your tree leaves have even pinnate leaflets (as well as only eight leaflets per leaf.)
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:41 pm

Tramp wrote:Hackberry!


Heard of it, but that's the limit of what I know of it. Now, how did it get there?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:05 pm

F%&#@*! Swimming Pools.

Mitch, swap that DE filter for a sand filter, and your troubles will be over.

We have a cover that allows rain and snow melt through, but keeps leaves atop, which blow off with any wind. We've never failed to have the pool so full in the Spring that it was way over the skimmer inlet, but yes, there's always algae and some muck on the bottom, worms and such, (ours is inground). Two cool things: first, there's no 'shaking' required, no fingers to get clogged, no dismantling to be done to get at the fingers, no muriatic acid required. Ever again. Ever. Second, The tank of it has a 'head' that has a handle that rotates, allowing several 'modes', with one selection being that the pool water coming from the pump BYPASSES the filter (did you hear me, son? Bypasses the filter!!) and goes straight to 'waste', meaning that the scum in the Spring, using the extra water, goes straight out into the field without going through the filter, which is HUGE, buddy. F*cking HUGE! Thirdly, (bonus!), the sand is good for three or four years, no emptying of the filter every winter, (there is a tap to drain the water out), no changing the DE during the season, backwashing is a cinch, and the old sand can be sucked out with a shop vac.

No other way to go.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Mitch » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:07 pm

Pete, we have a sand filter down in the basement. Threw that fucker out 3 years ago as the most worthless piece of shit money could buy! It could never hold a candle to the earth filter, which we are very happy with. It's just the first week of pool season that sucks with it. Compared to sand, our water is crystal clear, and I don't have to do the back flushing constantly as I did with sand. Nope! Make mine earth! :wink:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:13 pm

This Hackberry Tree:

Prunus padus
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Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Rosids
Order: Rosales
Family: Rosaceae
Subfamily: Prunoideae
Genus: Prunus
Subgenus: Padus[1]
Species: P. padus
Binomial name
Prunus padus
L.
Synonyms
Cerasus padus (L.) Delarbre
Prunus racemosa Lam.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:41 pm

Nope! Make mine earth!

Then quit yer bitchin'!! :wink: :D

That's what ya get for buying your sand filter at WalFart.
Me, I'm never going back to DE, in this or any of my next three lives.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:01 pm

Alright Tramp you get an "F" too.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:31 am

Tramp, if Daisy says it's a Hackberry, it's a Hackberry even if it ain't.

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Chinese Privet?
Major problem is it's missing the petiole.

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Flowers look like this?

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Copious amounts of fruits are produced. The berries turn black when ripe and are gobbled up by birds, which spread the seeds far and wide.

Berries look like this?

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http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/lisi.html

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:45 am

Dirt,

Chinese Privet is an abundant semi-evergreen small tree or large shrub. And it actually has invaded Main along the coast. Not too bad a guess, but, in addition to no petiole it has smooth edge leaflets and more than eight leaflets per leaf (way more.) Do you want a grade for that guess?
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:50 pm

That tree really is a mystery. The Bonnergantor, our certified local tree expert, believes it's some kind of cherry, which the Hackberry is. Man, now I'm really getting curious. Wayne, have you checked on the northern European Hackberry? All trees must be something, right?

On another subject, I need your hobo opinion. Someone doesn't seem to want to pay Tramp for services rendered. Tramp has a friend called The Horn, photo below. As The Horn says, "Your enemies are my enemies. Just say the word and it's done." Would any of you be concerned if The Horn came to "talk" to you. Of course, I could always send The Hevy if all else failed.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:47 pm

It's not me, is it, in arrears? :shock:

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:51 pm

Hi Hobos, this be Daisy.

Here's a little photo collage I just made for you. The upper left is from Image Google showing Prunus Padus leaf. The bottom two are photos I just took for you of one of our tree's leaves. The top right is a photo I just took of our tree's bark, also distinctive.

Thanks for working on this! And if you ever give my Tramp an F again, I'm sending in the Horn.

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ps Hi Wayne I miss you!
pps Hi Dirt (I still have a hard time calling you that) and thank you for believing in me :)
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:57 pm

Tramp,

"The Horn"... no, Hev... yes.

Daisy... double yes. Whatever you do, don't send Daisy after anyone. She just sent a chill up my spine with a warning about my grading system. I am not worried about The Horn, but if Daisy shows up I am done for.

Dirt is a wise man:
The Dirt wrote:Tramp, if Daisy says it's a Hackberry, it's a Hackberry even if it ain't.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:02 pm

Tramp wrote:That tree really is a mystery. The Bonnergantor, our certified local tree expert, believes it's some kind of cherry, which the Hackberry is. Man, now I'm really getting curious. Wayne, have you checked on the northern European Hackberry? All trees must be something, right?



Tramp,

It seems to be something nobody has ever heard of. I don't think you have a natural tree. I have been thinking "hybrid." If it is a hybrid, that would explain why it is so hard to identify. It could have characteristics of two trees or characteristics of its own. This Dutch hybrid, Aprikyra, has leaflets with arcuate venation and is described as very slow growing, but does not have your cherry like fruit. It has a plum like fruit that tastes like a cherry.
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