Hobo Jungle
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Ah,yes.My bones are lazy.
Thanks Wayne.
Thanks Wayne.
roger
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If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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webenda wrote:Think I'll listen to some Leon Redbone and go to sleep...zzzz
The only thing musically more esoteric that I can think of would be listening to "Hot Rize" (aka "Red Knuckles and the Trailblazers") do their version of "In a Gadda Da Vida"!

Interesting fellow Mr. Redbone, nee Dickran Gobalian (no foolin'), and very easy listening indeed.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Started thinking about "Up the Lazy River" and dozed off!

Rich
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The number of people who helped and appeared to know exactly how to do the job surprised me. Did they all attend tire changing school?
The last guy (the kid) has Good-Samaritan Syndrome. One of these days he is going to be sued when his "help" goes wrong. I noticed he really was not an expert at changing a tire. In this frame he is shown kicking the lug wrench because he did not know to loosen the lug nuts prior to jacking the car all the way up. Kicking the wrench is a good way to round off the lugs.
Kudos to "the kid" for not being put off by the taqiyah on the actors head.
The first guy showed astonishing patience in his effort to teach the actor how to change a tire. Kudos to him.
The last guy (the kid) has Good-Samaritan Syndrome. One of these days he is going to be sued when his "help" goes wrong. I noticed he really was not an expert at changing a tire. In this frame he is shown kicking the lug wrench because he did not know to loosen the lug nuts prior to jacking the car all the way up. Kicking the wrench is a good way to round off the lugs.
Kudos to "the kid" for not being put off by the taqiyah on the actors head.
The first guy showed astonishing patience in his effort to teach the actor how to change a tire. Kudos to him.
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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Wayne, ol’ bud, that’s a bit on the cynical side, in both cases.
The kid’s willingness to jump in on a tire change is a looong way from injuring somebody who’s medically compromised. As stated, he was one of only two who was willing to give it a shot, after some 50 white guys walked on by.
I’ll take a world full of kids like this, compared to the alternative, a world where everybody looks away. At least he’s giving it a shot.
In the second instance, if you scroll back, the guy in your screenshot threw the sarcasm before he tried to help. There could be plenty of reasons why someone wouldn’t know how to change a tire. Hell, they claimed the statistics are that 33% of men don’t know how to do this.
I like his ‘teach a man to fish’ approach, but the ridicule was uncalled-for.
The kid’s willingness to jump in on a tire change is a looong way from injuring somebody who’s medically compromised. As stated, he was one of only two who was willing to give it a shot, after some 50 white guys walked on by.
I’ll take a world full of kids like this, compared to the alternative, a world where everybody looks away. At least he’s giving it a shot.
In the second instance, if you scroll back, the guy in your screenshot threw the sarcasm before he tried to help. There could be plenty of reasons why someone wouldn’t know how to change a tire. Hell, they claimed the statistics are that 33% of men don’t know how to do this.
I like his ‘teach a man to fish’ approach, but the ridicule was uncalled-for.
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The Dirt wrote:...that’s a bit on the cynical side, in both cases.
You got that right.
The kid’s willingness to jump in on a tire change is a looong way from injuring somebody who’s medically compromised.
If the term "Good Samaritan" applies only to aid or rescue of an injured party, then I used the wrong term. I was thinking more in terms of rounding lug nuts by improper use of a lug wrench. [Lawsuit!] I can think of a worse scenario where the wheel falls off later because the helpful person had no idea how tight to make the lug nuts. [Lawsuit!]
Maybe I should have said "The last guy (the kid) has 'Have to Help Syndrome.'" Go on, tell me there is no such thing as HTHS. There must be a medical term for the kid's abnormal behavior.
…some 50 white guys walked on by.
John Quinones said, "Over 50 people pass and not a single bystander stops." If you heard "50 white guys" you are prejudiced.
Tarrytown, New York is home to people of many national backgrounds, of which 81.4% call themselves white. That means, out of 50 people, the odds are 41 are white and 9 are non-white. I could not tell how many non-whites passed in the video during those speeded up 30 seconds, but the video revealed one non-white, the guy with a red shirt or coat.
I’ll take a world full of kids like this, compared to the alternative. At least he’s giving it a shot.
I agree, good attitude. And earlier in the video one guy said, I don't know how to change a tire, but I am going to give it my best, OK?" Good for him, even if his testosterone was making him do it.
…the guy in your screenshot threw the sarcasm before he tried to help.
Yes, macho man could not believe a male could not change a tire. Just another case supporting my opinion on prejudice... "We all have it."
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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Wayne,
Your view on predjudice,"We all have it",is unfortunately IMHO true.
Your view on predjudice,"We all have it",is unfortunately IMHO true.

roger
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If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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Wayne, nobody can take a simple video and absolutely flog it to death quite like you. My hat’s off to you. You’re the absolute best at what you do, and I mean that sincerely.
Man, you got THAT right!
I can’t stand white people.
I only tolerate them because I am one.
If you heard "50 white guys" you are prejudiced.
Man, you got THAT right!
I can’t stand white people.
I only tolerate them because I am one.
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Alright youse guys.Play nice now or I'll send Uncle Tonio to see ya.
roger
I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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I think I remember reading somewhere that to get a drivers license in the UK that you have to prove that you know how to change a tire and also be able to maintain the vehicle like knowing how to put fluids in it ??
Robert
Robert
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to get a drivers license in the UK that you have to prove that you know how to change a tire
Rob, while not arguing the existence of such a rule, or its wisdom, it would nowadays seem unfair to women, the weak, or those getting a license later in life, specifically referring to getting lugnuts loose after being torqued via the use of the ubiquitous air-powered impact wrenches. So many mechanics (Mitch excluded) torque them WAY beyond what is necessary to keep them tight, and while I'm a LONG way from having arms like Hev, I'm not weak either, and I've had many a struggle over the years trying to break a lug nut loose, which would mean the Redhead would be helpless. I carry an aftermarket lug wrench that is shaped in a cross, so that I can push and pull at the same time. I'm 63 and I have never had a nut loosen after my hand-torqueing, and I won't take a car to a tire shop without asking them to hand-torque, and checking in a corner of the lot after they're done. More than once I've had them roll it back in.
That, and the fact that many hand lug wrenches supplied with cars are complete junk.
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HONDO74 wrote:I think I remember reading somewhere that to get a drivers license in the UK that you have to prove that you know how to change a tire and also be able to maintain the vehicle like knowing how to put fluids in it ??
Robert
When I googled "Driver's License Requirement in United Kingdom" I found the same requirements as we have in Arizona, except for the queen, who is not required to have a driving licence in order to drive. She also does not require number plates on any vehicles which are personally owned by her.
Another exception is in Northern Ireland, learner drivers are limited to a speed of 45 mph (72 km/h).
Nothing about vehicle maintenance knowledge to get a U.K. driver's license.
Reference: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Dr ... /index.htm
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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Dirt,
Thank you for complementing me as the best at flogging something to death.
Coming from you that really means something.
I have something for you, for being so kind:
Dirt's Anthem
White people got no reason
White people got no reason
White people got no reason
To live
They got white hands
White eyes
They walk around
Tellin' white lies
They got white noses
And white teeth
They wear white shoes
On their nasty white feet
Well, I don't want no White people
Don't want no White people
Don't want no White people
`Round here
With apologies to Randy Newman for plagiarizing, "Short People."
Thank you for complementing me as the best at flogging something to death.


Dirt's Anthem

White people got no reason
White people got no reason
White people got no reason
To live
They got white hands
White eyes
They walk around
Tellin' white lies
They got white noses
And white teeth
They wear white shoes
On their nasty white feet
Well, I don't want no White people
Don't want no White people
Don't want no White people
`Round here
With apologies to Randy Newman for plagiarizing, "Short People."
Last edited by webenda on Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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The Dirt wrote:Rob, while not arguing the existence of such a rule, or its wisdom, it would nowadays seem unfair to women, the weak, or those getting a license later in life, specifically referring to getting lugnuts loose after being torqued via the use of the ubiquitous air-powered impact wrenches. So many mechanics (Mitch excluded) torque them WAY beyond what is necessary to keep them tight, and while I'm a LONG way from having arms like Hev, I'm not weak either, and I've had many a struggle over the years trying to break a lug nut loose, which would mean the Redhead would be helpless. I carry an aftermarket lug wrench that is shaped in a cross, so that I can push and pull at the same time. I'm 63 and I have never had a nut loosen after my hand-torqueing, and I won't take a car to a tire shop without asking them to hand-torque, and checking in a corner of the lot after they're done. More than once I've had them roll it back in.
That, and the fact that many hand lug wrenches supplied with cars are complete junk.
Dirt,
Correct on all counts. The "plus" shaped lug wrench should be standard equipment, and a 3 foot or so piece of steel pipe of a diameter large enough to be slid over any of it's "arms" to gain leverage to break free over-tightened lug nuts is the great equalizer. Problem is, even if they break the lug nuts loose, most tire/wheels are heavy enough that anyone of small stature or serious age will be stymied lifting them onto the studs. Probably best to have a membership in AAA, which is well within the financial reach of most folks.
Rich
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From my very limited perspective, it isn't the changing of the actual tire that is so difficult. It is getting those da@@!!XX awkward jacks into place and functioning. I just can't picture myself kneeling or lying stretched out/reclining on the shoulder of some highway, possibly in the rain or snow slop, trying to get the infernal thing in place to do its job. How many people know for certain just wherethehell you are supposed to position that thing under the car so you can crank it (which also, has become a silly, ackward, odd task) and not break through the floor - or worse.
This comes from a guy who was always THE designated tire changer for any friend or classmate's car, back in the halcyon school days of 50's & 60's, who got a flat tire. I loved changing those flats! The jack as straightforward. It was tall. Vertical . You attached it to the bumper, cranked 'er up just so far as to still hold the tire in place on the road surface (never standing in front of the jack;) use the slot-tip end of the jack handle-thing to pry off the hubcap; start removing the nuts, placing them carefully in the hubcap (so they would be corralled in one place.) Once they were all removed, jack the car up further (no lying on the ground necessary, then, either) so the wheel was free-wheeling (
) then pull the flat tire off...
Oooops,, I forgot. Before I jacked the car up, I got the spare (full-sized spare) out of the trunk, along w/ the jack and lug wrench thing)...etc.
You get the idea.
It was all straightforward and, to me, actually enjoyable.
Nowadays, I wouldn't even think of doing it. Instead, I'll hit the button above the windshield for such emergencies and wait for the assistance of a younger (and slimmer) guy to do it all for me. At 67, I figure, I earned the prerogative to sit and wait.
This comes from a guy who was always THE designated tire changer for any friend or classmate's car, back in the halcyon school days of 50's & 60's, who got a flat tire. I loved changing those flats! The jack as straightforward. It was tall. Vertical . You attached it to the bumper, cranked 'er up just so far as to still hold the tire in place on the road surface (never standing in front of the jack;) use the slot-tip end of the jack handle-thing to pry off the hubcap; start removing the nuts, placing them carefully in the hubcap (so they would be corralled in one place.) Once they were all removed, jack the car up further (no lying on the ground necessary, then, either) so the wheel was free-wheeling (

Oooops,, I forgot. Before I jacked the car up, I got the spare (full-sized spare) out of the trunk, along w/ the jack and lug wrench thing)...etc.
You get the idea.
It was all straightforward and, to me, actually enjoyable.
Nowadays, I wouldn't even think of doing it. Instead, I'll hit the button above the windshield for such emergencies and wait for the assistance of a younger (and slimmer) guy to do it all for me. At 67, I figure, I earned the prerogative to sit and wait.

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