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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:56 pm

Yes, and the growth in earnings among the lowest decile of the working population is largely due to increased minimum wages in blue states that voted for both Clintons :). And that Republicans and business have largely vigorously opposed. And this arrogant twit has the nerve to take credit for this. A swindler knows no boundaries for his lies.
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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:08 pm

Neil wrote:
When did the Republican party become the Party of Putin is our Friend, and extreme deficit spending during times of excellent economic growth? Bizarre. Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan are rolling over in their graves :).


What a minute. It was Hillary Clinton who said she pushed the reset button with Putin when she was secretary of state during the Obama administration. And it was the Clinton campaign with the DNC that paid to have the Steele Dossier with all that juicy info from the Russians about Trump.

I remember the ads back in 60s that Goldwater was going to get us into a nuclear war in Vietnam. But it was Johnson that inherited it from President John F. Kennedy and escalated the war and by the end of 1967 a total of 19,560 troops had died.

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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:31 pm

It isn't Hillary Clinton who is palsy-walsy with Putin, and believing that KGB thug instead of his own intelligence community. Does anyone wonder whether the Russians have anything on Trump? A lot of us do. Or maybe Trump just sees another narcissist and gangster of his own cloth in Putin. Whatever it is, no President in recent memory has been as friendly to an enemy of the United States and enemy of freedom as Trump has.
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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:47 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Not only is he a dishonest businessman, he's one that sees and uses bankruptcy as a tool. Hardly the ideal that you want running a country




Madison Guaranty

Hillary Clinton was a partener in the Rose Law firm when she did an audit on Madison Guaranty savins and loan. Gave then a clean bill of health and they went bankrupt. Everyone lost money.

James McDougal holds a fund-raising event at Madison Guaranty to help pay off a $50,000 Clinton campaign debt. Investigators later determine some of the money was improperly withdrawn from depositor funds.

Madison Guaranty collapses after a series of bad loans and a change in government accounting procedures. The federal government shuts it down and spends $60 million bailing it out.

The McDougal's and the Clintons were involved in a land development scam

A U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation resulted in convictions against the McDougals for their role in the Whitewater project. Jim Guy Tucker, Bill Clinton's successor as governor, was convicted of fraud and sentenced to four years of probation for his role in the matter. Susan McDougal served 18 months in prison for contempt of court for refusing to answer questions relating to Whitewater.

Susan McDougal was granted a pardon by President Clinton before he left office

And the Clinton's got away with it.

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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:55 pm

Neil wrote:It isn't Hillary Clinton who is palsy-walsy with Putin, and believing that KGB thug instead of his own intelligence community. Does anyone wonder whether the Russians have anything on Trump? A lot of us do. Or maybe Trump just sees another narcissist and gangster of his own cloth in Putin. Whatever it is, no President in recent memory has been as friendly to an enemy of the United States and enemy of freedom as Trump has.


Bill Clinton did receive $500,000 to deliver a speech at a Russian bank that was promoting Uranium One stock, according to The New York Times, and the company's chairman donated $2.35 million to the foundation in four installments as Uranium One was being acquired by Rosatum between 2009 and 2013.

All told, $145 million went to the Clinton Foundation from those linked to Uranium One and UrAsia,

Bill Clinton received $500,000 to deliver a speech at a Russian bank......

Looks to me like the Clinton's were palsy-walsy with Putin and the Russians.

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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:06 pm

You do realize there is a difference between supporting Putin instead of the CIA when you are President and 20 years later :lol: :lol:
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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:10 pm

Not to mention that it is lifelong Republicans like Mueller, McCain and Romney who believe(d) Trump is a coward, liar and enemy of our national interests. Anyway you can not justify Trump’s dishonesty and treachery by attacking the Clintons or Benedict Arnold. Next you’ll be bringing up Jefferson Davis and his role as a Democrat.:roll: :roll:
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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:57 pm

Neil wrote:Not to mention that it is lifelong Republicans like Mueller, McCain and Romney who believe(d) Trump is a coward, liar and enemy of our national interests. Anyway you can not justify Trump’s dishonesty and treachery by attacking the Clintons or Benedict Arnold. Next you’ll be bringing up Jefferson Davis and his role as a Democrat.:roll: :roll:


Mueller put together a team of 20 anti-trump democrat lawyers,spent 25 million dollars and 2 year. Came up empty handed on the collusion.

I was not a McCain supporter. Always had a fear he could get us into a war with Russia.

Romney is pissed because Trump would not give him the secretary of state job. Funny, the democrats hated him and now he is their best friend. :mrgreen:

I have a hard time getting all the way back to Harry Truman. And I like Harry Truman. I just wish Harry would have let MacArthur destroy North Korea when he had the chance.

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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:07 pm

Neil wrote:You do realize there is a difference between supporting Putin instead of the CIA when you are President and 20 years later :lol: :lol:


The same CIA that tried to take Trump out when he was first elected ??

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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:08 pm

Romney risked being rusticated from the Republican Party because of a personal beef? Much more likely he simply sees Trump as an amoral and selfish man who puts his personal needs ahead of the nation’s wellbeing.
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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:11 pm

Choosing between believing the CIA and Bretibart’s insane lies is easy for those of us who don’t believe in Crazy Conspiracies. :mrgreen:
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Re: The DNC

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:40 pm

Neil wrote:Choosing between believing the CIA and Bretibart’s insane lies is easy for those of us who don’t believe in Crazy Conspiracies. :mrgreen:


We have 9 months to go before the election and as they say in football, on any Sunday.

But I would like to ask a question. Has anything happened in the last 3 years since Trump has been president that has had a big negative impact on you life that he somehow caused ?

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Re: The DNC

Postby robert. » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:58 pm

"But I would like to ask a question. Has anything happened in the last 3 years since Trump has been president that has had a big negative impact on you life that he somehow caused ?"
I could probably safely say. None of the last 9-10 presidents have effected me in a major negative way. All of them have been a slow
marching into a big mess of today's world.
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Re: The DNC

Postby Neil » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:30 pm

"Has anything happened in the last 3 years since Trump has been president that has had a big negative impact on you life that he somehow caused ?"

Of course not. The only presidential action that even vaguely influenced my very fortunate and privileged life has been the one where the Vietnam war ended so that I didn't have to serve as a medical officer. Likely would have gone to the NIH as a yellow beret in any case.

My vote for president and every other elective office is only affected by whether the candidate's vision for the world reflects a better world than the current one, as a rising tide lifts all boats. That's almost always a Democrat, but not every time. Someone whose character seems good and has led a reasonably decent and kind life concerned about the well being of all, social justice and the fate of our children. Not usually restricted to any particular party, but the Republican party has moved gradually to being the party of hostility to "others," favoring the very wealthy over the middle class and the poor, and totally callous to human suffering here and abroad. And willfully imposing their moral values about drugs, abortion and sexuality upon the rest of us. And in willful denial of various scientific truths, such as the awful effects of particulate air pollution on health, and the need for various societal interventions to improve the public health (getting rid of coal driven electricity, making automobiles safer, vaccination, medical research).

Fortunately, one hopes, the Republican party as constituted is almost certainly doomed since they are the white, male and nativist party, and the natives aren't having children at a high rate. :). Nothing wrong with being white and male, unless that makes you feel entitled to own the country. We should remember that the Irish were considered inferior beings by our Anglo forebearers :). The Republican party may eventually return to its roots as anti-racist, anti-slavery and socially progressive, but time will tell. Under Trump, it's not that party.
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Re: The DNC

Postby Mitch » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:33 am

There's a brand new poll out from the University of Massachusetts. Of 400 Democrats polled, 62% said they would rather have the earth destroyed by a meteor than to have President Trump re-elected. GAWD!!! It's a good thing we don't have any animosity in our American politics. :roll:

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