Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby webenda » Fri May 19, 2017 11:08 pm

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby rogruth » Fri May 19, 2017 11:25 pm

They seem to be com[laining about how often the train blew its horn.
Must be OK to walk and drive if front of the train.
I wonder if there would be complaints if the train hit someone/something
if the train did not blow its horn?
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat May 20, 2017 1:57 am

Yet, at one distinct point, the train actually stopped for the traffic and waited, no less. So the RR has told the community what it will do to accommodate.

AS far as the RR sounding the horn as a safety warning, I am positive somebody will manage to complain.

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby Tom Dempsey » Sat May 20, 2017 8:39 am

If you enter a crossing that is not specifically designated as a quiet zone without blowing 2 longs a short and a long within the specified time and distance limits, it's a violation of CGOR and in most jurisdictions also a violation of state and/or local laws.

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby rogruth » Sat May 20, 2017 6:04 pm

So in a "quiet zone" if a train hits someone or something without sounding a warning can any action be taken against the railroad company?

If the train sounds a warning in a quiet zone and an accident is avoided what will be the consequences?
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby webenda » Sat May 20, 2017 6:15 pm

Did anyone notice the engineer seated at his control station with his back to the motion of the train?
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat May 20, 2017 7:20 pm

Wow. No. I sure missed that! Is that sane? Normal for inner-city train moving?!

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby Tom Dempsey » Sat May 20, 2017 7:35 pm

I don't think you can designate a crossing as a quiet zone without having positive gating to ensure folks can't cross under the locomotive. I can't imagine any RR agreeing to it. I almost can't imagine any city or county council specifying a quiet zone without adequately idiot proofing the crossing.

Sitting like that when operating long hood forward is a problem, I've seen too many engineers do it. I've been guilty of it myself on tangent track out in the boonies, however, it's really not advisable in a congested area.

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby Roy » Sat May 20, 2017 7:54 pm

Tom Dempsey wrote:Sitting like that when operating long hood forward is a problem, I've seen too many engineers do it. I've been guilty of it myself on tangent track out in the boonies, however, it's really not advisable in a congested area.

I can imagine that it might affect your reaction time.
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat May 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Roy wrote:
Tom Dempsey wrote:Sitting like that when operating long hood forward is a problem, I've seen too many engineers do it. I've been guilty of it myself on tangent track out in the boonies, however, it's really not advisable in a congested area.

I can imagine that it might affect your reaction time.

But why do it? Isn't it a simple matter of swiveling a chair around 180degrees?

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby rex desilets » Sat May 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Then I suppose the controls would be behind the engineer
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby Tom Dempsey » Sun May 21, 2017 12:33 pm

rex desilets wrote:Then I suppose the controls would be behind the engineer


Bingo, that really affects your reaction times.

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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby robert. » Sun May 21, 2017 1:08 pm

More then half of the residence where i live wanted quite zones. we have 4 crossings with a mile of each other. Septa agreed to install them with 1 stipulation.Our town had to pay up almost 6 million for installation. It got shot down real quick. Funny thing about it is the guy spearheading this idea was the newest member of town. He bought a place right next to one of the crossing. Septa would have taking his barn in eminent domain. septa claimed " An engineer needs to see a specific distance leading up to a crossing and his barn blocked that view"
After 10 pm they whistle less per approach. It's still semi rural. After 6:30 am it's full blast.
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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun May 21, 2017 2:36 pm

robert. wrote:More then half of the residence where i live wanted quite zones. we have 4 crossings with a mile of each other. Septa agreed to install them with 1 stipulation.Our town had to pay up almost 6 million for installation. It got shot down real quick. Funny thing about it is the guy spearheading this idea was the newest member of town. He bought a place right next to one of the crossing. Septa would have taking his barn in eminent domain. septa claimed " An engineer needs to see a specific distance leading up to a crossing and his barn blocked that view"
After 10 pm they whistle less per approach. It's still semi rural. After 6:30 am it's full blast.


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Re: Keep constantly on guard when on or near railroad property.

Postby rex desilets » Sun May 21, 2017 7:56 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:<snip>

When I was living round there some group of gits that moved into a new development over around Newtown sued the farmer across the highway for his farm's "aroma" - lots of pigs; judge tossed it out of court - farmer was there when you moved in; what did you expect living across the street from a pig farm?
This sort of thing (not a pig farm, thank goodness) abounds here in So Cal, the land of the entitled. Torrance airport (WWII P-38 base) was originally in the midst of bean fields. As tract housing grew around it complaints grew apace. Worse was the a-holes in PV. Torrance used to have a decent annual airshow, now cancelled. By the airport is the Robinson Helicopter plant, a major employer and tax-payer. People are always complaining about test flights of the helicopters, that now must fly a restricted flight path. People can be such jerks :twisted:
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