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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:23 am

rex desilets wrote:Whatcha doing with an N&W 3 bay 70T hopper?? :shock:


Nothing now -- every 3- or 4-bay hopper was sold off regardless of prototype; reduction in roster inventory combined with a re-grouping to a more pre-1920's prototype appearance. I do, however, keep some later cars for my anachronism train to run if/when I ever have another open house.
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:56 pm

My order came in today.
No time now--will evaluate car, cost(including shipping) later.
For now here is a photo.
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:27 pm

webenda wrote:My order came in today.
No time now--will evaluate car, cost(including shipping) later.


It is ..................bright! :wink:
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby rex desilets » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:48 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:Whatcha doing with an N&W 3 bay 70T hopper?? :shock:


Nothing now -- every 3- or 4-bay hopper was sold off regardless of prototype; reduction in roster inventory combined with a re-grouping to a more pre-1920's prototype appearance. I do, however, keep some later cars for my anachronism train to run if/when I ever have another open house.
Complete with a diseaseal loco? Or is that a step too far? :lol:
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:24 pm

rex desilets wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:Whatcha doing with an N&W 3 bay 70T hopper?? :shock:


Nothing now -- every 3- or 4-bay hopper was sold off regardless of prototype; reduction in roster inventory combined with a re-grouping to a more pre-1920's prototype appearance. I do, however, keep some later cars for my anachronism train to run if/when I ever have another open house.
Complete with a diseaseal loco? Or is that a step too far? :lol:


Yup! Central drive Weaver RS-3 all tricked out for PRR. Also have an old All-Nation NW-2 - ever O scale modeler has to have had at least one of these in their hobby lifetime.
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:07 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
webenda wrote:My order came in today.
No time now--will evaluate car, cost(including shipping) later.


It is ..................bright! :wink:

Now don't set me off on weathering toy trains again. :evil:

It is pristine*--I can find no flaw anywhere. I got a good one for the lowest price of the day.
*Except wheel tread shows it has a few miles on it.

Weight on USPS scale 38.3 oz (2 lb 6.3 oz)
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The car is 8 1/4 inches long.
NMRA suggested weight :
5 oz + 1 oz/inch = 5 + 1 * 8.25 = 13.25 oz (0.828 lb)

Item Price: $32.00
Shipping: $26.10
What I paid: $58.10
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USPS Shipping cost: $17.15
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby robert. » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:12 am

You should have questioned the seller about shipping price before you bought it. If you bought through ebay the may return some excessive shipping fees. I'm not sure what they allow for packing fees and handling.If your lucky you will find these limits on their website. One unique feature about blue coal is the fire to get hotter further away from the coal. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:43 am

$26 for shipping? :!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Even $17 is a lot!

I know that eBay permits some room for handling and such, but that seems excessive.

Yes, I'd complain back to the seller - individual or company/dealer/shop?
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:35 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:$26 for shipping? :!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Yes, I'd complain back to the seller - individual or company/dealer/shop?

How can I tell individual or company/dealer/shop?
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:47 am

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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Tom Dempsey » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:00 am

The cost of shipping a package includes more than just the actual postage charged.

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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:02 am

robert. wrote:One unique feature about blue coal is the fire to get hotter further away from the coal. :roll: :roll:

Advertising hype. Dying the coal blue does not make it burn hotter farther away from the coal. All coal fires are hotter away from the coal particle (or lump.) Air combining with coal gases moving away from a coal particle increases the temperature of the gases greatly.

https://web.anl.gov/PCS/acsfuel/preprin ... 7_0001.pdf
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:08 am

Tom Dempsey wrote:The cost of shipping a package includes more than just the actual postage charged.


While true, that initial postal cost seems high. Also, $9 in handling is also just a wee bit high.

Boxes are free from the PO delivered to your door; postal labels are free to print and come with a discount on postal costs, and pick-up from your door can also be done. Bubble wrap and tape do cost, but as an example, I keep a large stock on hand so to spread costs across many, many packages - pennies per box at the end of the day and I'm not even a company but just an individual seller.

Ok, I left out time.......I don't charge for my time. If I did, I would sell nothing at all.
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby webenda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:19 am

Rufus wrote:...that initial postal cost seems high.


The seller sent the package "Priority Mail", not offering less expensive shipping methods. Postage cost was set by the USPS.

Tom Dempsey wrote:The cost of shipping a package includes more than just the actual postage charged.

I know. At the risk of the seller calling me "stupid" I asked the question to satisfy certain individuals who think preparing the package for shipping should be free. (And curiosity to see if I will get a polite response.)

The guy asking $99.99 with free shipping included paper work, packaging, overhead, etc. costs in the asking price.
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Re: Blue Coal and All Scale Rails Magazine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:27 am

webenda wrote:
Rufus wrote:...that initial postal cost seems high.


The seller sent the package "Priority Mail", not offering less expensive shipping methods. Postage cost was set by the USPS.


That's surprising since I do ship freight car models cross country using Priority Mail - never paid that high a rate. Priority Mail is frequently very competitive in price with the so-called less expensive (and slower) methods.

Something is not adding up right. Rates are determined by not only zones, but also size of the item. How big a box was this in and what was the shipping origin state? I usually use the Priority Mail shoe box boxes (delivered to your porch for free!) that apparently very few people are aware of existing.
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