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Postby webenda » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:34 am

Del Mar wrote:...Bianchi SOK Single Speed 29er
It's not a fixie, though. I am not that nutz.
San


My dear San,

You are nutz. A single speed is a fixie. Oh! Did you mean it has a ratchet hub... that is why the brakes? Could we see a photo of the bicycle in ridable condition please? How does a 29er compare to a 26er? Feel a lot different?

P.S.

You snuck one in there. I will be looking forward to a photo.
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Postby Del Mar » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:56 am

Single speeds can have a freewheel or a fixed cog. The SOK is freewheeled and the rear is dished for just that. The canabalized Langster and now modified Tarmac have a flip flop rear wheel; one side is fixed, one side is freewheel. I used the freewheel on the Langster for a while; I was very scared of handling the fixed in traffic. It took some weeks of just riding in the high school parking lot and on bike trails before I felt confident about my track stands. Now I have little problem and like it.

The SOK 29er 32T front chainwheel by 18T on 29 inch wheels is taller than the same combination on 26 inch wheels. This is why gear inches is a good measure.

Man oh man, I miss Shedon Brown. The nut cases in SF where oldest (well, not old, but 28 ) daughter live and his postings got me into this perverse path. At 58, I should be riding one of those three wheel things with baskets to the local market.

San

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Postby webenda » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:09 am

Del Mar wrote:At 58, I should be riding one of those three wheel things with baskets to the local market.San

Your body adjusts to what ever you ride. Get a three wheeler and that is what you will become. At 66, I still ride the mountain trails here in the desert. It is good cardiac exercise for us old guys.
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Postby dougdagrump » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:16 am

For my cardiac exercise I'd rather sit on the wall at the boardwalk and watch the hunnies ! :oops:

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Postby rogruth » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:18 am

Let's see.From trucks to urinals to bikes to "hunnies".It's like we are just sitting around talking to each other.

Oh yeah.We are.But it's hard to interrupt.
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Postby Tramp » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:22 pm

Brothers, we are closing in rapidly on one million views. My computer has no room for that next digit, so I'm darn interested to see what happens.

Dennis B, where the hell are you?
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Postby The Dirt » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:25 pm

999451 !!

Probably happen this weekend.
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Postby jperrine » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:51 pm

My son in law drives a 18 wheeler for a living, but its not a over the rode job. he is home every night. I think he starts about 5 or 6 in the am and drives until about 5 or 6 or later in the evening.

Jim

He used to drive over the rode until he was almost killed. He rounded a curve and another 18 wheeler was stopped out in his lane and he had oncoming traffic and had no choise but to hit the trailer. He showed me the pictures and my daughter took him to where they had the truck and almost passed out when she saw the truck. You could have taken a can opener right down the middle of the truck. Half of the cab was gone. the drivers seat was still in tack. Even the cop that came to the accident told him " Someone was riding with you today".

P.S. How you doing Tramp?

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Postby Tramp » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:00 pm

Jim, Tramp do okay!
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Postby Mitch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:59 pm

Some of you guys might be able to help me out here. The Pennsylvania Railroad built many of its' own engines and cars at the Altoona Shops. Now I know I've read this. They cranked out a K-4 Pacific, from start, to firing the boiler, in just a little over 17 hours. And I believe the book that I read that in is somewhere in this house, but damned if I can find it. I've looked through everything I have, (I think), but I cannot locate the paragraph, the chapter, or even the correct book.
Given how large the Altoona shops were, and the number of craftsmen at their disposal, the huge parts inventory, and the pride that was the Pennsylvania Railroad in its' heyday, this seems absolutely believable. Don't tell me to Google, I don't want to hear it, (cause I don't have the patience). Do any of you guys know anything of this?

PS. This is not life or death, it's just a nagging irritation in the back of my mind. :lol:
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Postby Tramp » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:17 pm

Mitch, you'd think that heavy coat of primer and black paint would take longer than that to dry. I'm going to be shocked if that's true. How long does it take GM to build a car from start to firing the boiler?
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Postby Mitch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:41 pm

I don't know, Tramp. When I was driving truck, coming east from Chicago to Detroit, in the early '70s, there was a huge billboard sign with an electronic number counter on it, just on the west end outskirts of Detroit. It clicked off the number of cars (total) that was being built in the U.S., and it seemed to roll over every second. Maybe Hev can remember that billboard. It was between Ann Arbor and Detroit on I-94. I remember that from the time you could see it, they built at least 100 cars 'til you rolled on by.

But I know that I read that somewhere. I'm not crazy, and it's killin' me to not be able to find it. It wasn't a contest or anything like that, that I recall. They just wanted to see how long it would take to build a locomotive for a record time.

I'll keep looking. Do you remember that website that had the story being told about the guy gettin' hired by the Pennsy to investigate the Nazi's tryin' to take over the railroad. You posted it here a couple of years ago. It only ever went to like chapter 8 and they never finished it. It may have been that site that I read that on, but age has its' limitations. :)
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Postby 2railjon » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:53 pm

Urinals??? You guys hang out at some fancy pants watering holes!! Around here we still have the "older versions"!!! :lol: :wink:
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Postby Del Mar » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:10 am

In terms of production rates, I have always been amazed by the story of Liberty ships.

When the Liberty ships were first put into production, it was thought that if they made it to their destination they had paid their way, making it back would be a bonus. A sit turned out, they became the workhorse of the American Merchant Marine.

There was a time when you could find them in every sea of the world. They carried the cargo that made our fighting men the best supplied in the history of warfare. In great convoys they fought their way to England, Russia, Africa, and the islands of the Pacific.

The first Liberty ship commissioned, prior to Pearl Harbor, took 244 days to build. Henry J. Kaiser, whose shipyards built one-third of all America's ships in World War II, cut that to 72 days in May of 1942. By August of that year, construction time was down to 46 days. As publicity stunt, one of his shipyards built a ship from scratch in five days. However the average time was about six weeks.

The Liberty ship was 442 feet long, and it could carry 10,000 tons of cargo at eleven knots--about 12 MPH. By the end of the war, the Liberty had carried about 75% of all the cargo that went to support the American war effort.

She did not look very impressive; she was no sleek, elegant lady. She was what she was--a dowdy, hard-working, no-nonsense type of ship. Blunt of bow, broad in the beam, and dressed in sensibly grey, she waddled her way across the seas of the world like a plump matron on her way to a P.T.A. meeting.

Almost three thousand Liberty ships were built during the war. Since she was the prime cargo carrier, she was also the ship that most of the wartime merchant seamen sailed on. Most crewmen did not develop and loyalty or love for the ungainly craft. She was too plain, too graceless for affection.

When the seas were calm, she plodded along at speeds well below her eleven knot maximum. When the weather was making, the Liberty ship did not slice through the seas with the eagerness of the destroyers that hunted on the edges of the convoys. She met each wave head on, held it for a moment while she caught her breath, and then pushed it aside with her ungainly bulk. Creaking, groaning, whispering to herself, she toiled with the unceasing energy of the born drudge.

The liberty ship made a liar out of the pessimists of the early war years. She turned out to be a tough, capable cargo vessel. This telegram sent by Admiral Emory Land of the Maritime Commission, to the Bethlehem-Fairchild Shipyard, builders of the S.S. Richard Bland; show the character and the durability of the Liberty ship.

On her first voyage through the northern

war zones, the Bland struck floating ice,

staving in the bottom of No. 1 hold and

damaging the forepeak. When diver

inspection showed damage too extensive for

repairs at a near-by (sic) PORT, She

proceeded to destination with collision mats

covering the hole.

After safely discharging all but a small

part of her cargo and after repairs, the

Bland started her return voyage. An attack

by bombers did no damage. Later an enemy

torpedo slowed her down but she held her

place in the convoy. On the same day she

was attacked by 18 enemy planes with no

material damage.

Next day heavy weather scattered the

convoy and, proceeding alone for two days

another torpedo struck. Engines were stopped

the stern settled and part of the crew were

ordered off in lifeboats. The rest of the

crew carried on until a third torpedo hit

midships and the stern sank. The forward

half of the vessel was towed safely to port

by a trawler and half of the ships crew were

picked up by near-by (sic) vessels.

All ships did not run the gauntlet like the Richard Bland, but ship losses were high in the first years of the war. In 1942, sinkings were equivalent to 39% of new ship construction. By 1945, the last year of the war, the rate had dropped to 4%. Even so, the toll was high. Almost six hundred ships of the American Merchant Marine were sunk during the war years, and nearly six thousand men of our merchant fleet died while serving aboard them.

The Liberty ship may not have garnered the affection of the men who sailed them, but she did earn their respect. Those who sailed on her have not forgotten the gatherings of ships, both great and small, that were shepherded to some distant shore. They remember the fear; the sleek-spumed wake of the torpedo's path; the planes that came out of the sun to stitch havoc on the ships below; the battering of bombs that seemed to rip the world apart.

No, she is still remembered. The needs of our country have changed and ships are now larger, faster, and the carry vast arrays of antennas that feed the computers and radars. Man has become less important in their operation, but those who sailed in a less complicated world look back to a time when men sailed the ships, to a time when a ship seemed a living thing.

The ship President called the "Ugly Ducklin" after seeing the blueprints needs no apologists. Her squat outline was seen on every sea in the world. She may have appeared a slow, ungainly drudge, but underneath she was a lady--a lady of the sea.


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Postby Water Man » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:15 am

Hey Tramp, Found a car for you.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/816398580.html

Kurt


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