Whatzit?

[webenda]

[chuck]

Hadron collider, Atlas detector

http://discovermagazine.com/2015/oct/13-beyond-higgs-boson

I remember the shape of the plates from "Angels and Daemons", about 7 minutes into the film when they are getting ready to collect the anti matter.

[Roy]

My photo analysis software says it's a roller coaster, which is clearly wrong. OK, I don't think any of it is glazed, but here goes: the Watts Towers.

Update: the new photo is supposed to be pho, which is Vietnamese soup. Is it the ATLAS Muon spectrometer?

[webenda]

My photo analysis software says it's a roller coaster, which is clearly wrong. OK, I don't think any of it is glazed, but here goes: the Watts Towers.

Update: the new photo is supposed to be pho, which is Vietnamese soup. Is it the ATLAS Muon spectrometer?

Chuck got it right first. It is one of two muon spectrometer endcaps added in 2003 to the central muon spectrometer on the ATLAS detector used in the CERN Large Hadron Collider. I wonder why it is so big? I don't think I could afford a muon spectrometer that big.

[HONDO74]

I wonder why it is so big?

Job security How much money has been spent on it so far.

[webenda]

The Large Hadron Collider took about a decade to construct, for a total cost of about $4.75 billion. There are several different experiments going on at the LHC, including the CMS and ATLAS Detectors which discovered the Higgs boson. The total operating budget of the LHC runs to about $1 billion* per year. The Large Hadron Collider was first turned on in August of 2008, then stopped for repairs in September until November 2009. Taking all of those costs into consideration, the total cost of finding the Higgs boson ran about $13.25 billion. Jul 5, 2012

The official cost of $13.25 Billion does not account for all expenses. You don’t have to believe me, there is evidence from data reported by CERN (see CERN annual report). A few additions, subtractions and divisions on data reported by CERN will convince you that the cost of the LHC is way over $13.25 Billion (Forbes states $13.25 Billion, Wikipedia states $9 Billion, CERN’s official website states $4.1 Billion for the accelerators and $1.4 Billion for the detectors).

There are about 10,000 people working at CERN, let’s consider the 8,500 working on the LHC project (the others are considered to work for smaller but no less important experiments). Many of them are paid by their home institute, and less than 2,500 are paid by CERN at an average cost of $120,000 per employee per year for 18 years which totals $18.36 Billion.

Considering the $10 Billion cost to build the LHC accelerator ―

Considering the $4 Billion cost to build the four experiments (CMS, ATLAS, ALICE and LHCb) from 1990 to 2008 ―

Considering the $9 Billion operating cost of the LHC ($1 Billion per year from 2008 to 2017) ―

Considering the $2 Billion upgrades of the four experiments from 2008 to 2017 ―

Considering the personnel average cost increase of $150,000 per person per year for 10,000 employees working for LHC out of 12,500 gives a personnel cost $13.5 Billion for 9 years ―

― then the very conservative calculation for the total cost of the LHC project is $52.86 Billion.

Where did CERN get most of its funding for the Hadron Collider? CERN gets its money through grants and funds from individual members. *The EU will provide most of the $1,000,000,000 operating cost. So, in the end, it is supported by taxes paid by citizens in EU member countries.

So... why? https://youtu.be/83FbDC3jcmE

[rogruth]

Wayne or others,
So what did we learn when the Higgs boson was "discovered"?
Can you tell me in language that I might understand?

[HONDO74]

In the 1960s, British physicist Peter Higgs hypothesized the existence of a field through which all particles would be dragged — like marbles moving through molasses — giving the particles mass. Higgs thought this field would have a particle associated with it — one that is thought to give all other particles their mass. This particle became known as the Higgs boson. It was nicknamed the "God particle" after a 1993 book by physicist Leon Lederman and science writer Dick Teresi, but many physicists — including Higgs himself — reject the term as being sensational.

In 2012, after a decades-long hunt, two experiments at the LHC detected a new elementary particle weighing about 126 times as much as a proton, the positively charged particle found in the nucleus of an atom. Less than a year later, after physicists had collected two-and-a-half times more data inside the LHC, the researchers confirmed that the newfound particle was, indeed, the Higgs.

The discovery of the Higgs boson represents the final piece of the puzzle in the Standard Model of particle physics, a theory that describes how three of the four fundamental forces — electromagnetic, weak and strong nuclear forces — interact at the subatomic level (but does not include gravity). Peter Higgs and Belgian physicist Francois Englert were awarded the Nobel Prize in physics in 2013 for their prediction of the Higgs boson's existence.

[rogruth]

Hondo,
Thank you.
Now that we know this what do we do with it/the information?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

...Chuck got it right first. It is one of two muon spectrometer endcaps added in 2003 to the central muon spectrometer on the ATLAS detector used in the CERN Large Hadron Collider. I wonder why it is so big? I don't think I could afford a muon spectrometer that big.
...

Why would you want or need one, anyolways, dude? Would such a device appeal to the same ability in you that wouldn't mind having a telescope in-place on the property? And where on the Webenda Compound would such a modestly-sized Collider be placed, asks a fan of the marvels of Wayne's World.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

...and HONDO, I agree with Roger about your explanation. It is a marvelous read, about a marvelous subject, something I will save and re-read many times. Your writing such high-level information, here, affords a whole new august level of appreciation of who our Hondo is, that's for sure, as far as I am concerned. Thank you for that informative explanation, as well as the more informed peek at who you are, sir.

[HONDO74]

...and HONDO, I agree with Roger about your explanation. It is a marvelous read, about a marvelous subject, something I will save and re-read many times. Your writing such high-level information, here, affords a whole new august level of appreciation of who our Hondo is, that's for sure, as far as I am concerned. Thank you for that informative explanation, as well as the more informed peek at who you are, sir.

I can't take credit for the information. I got it from the internet. It looked like a good explanation for Roger's question.

My take on the Higgs boson. It was nicknamed the "God particle" and was supposedly the spark that set off the big bang that created the universe.

[rogruth]

So if they found it that means it still exists.
When can we look for another big bang and the formation of another universe?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

So if they found it that means it still exists.
When can we look for another big bang and the formation of another universe?

When this one is used-up?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

So if they found it that means it still exists.
When can we look for another big bang and the formation of another universe?

When this one is used-up?

Probably. Eventually the humor of it all will wear out....