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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:27 pm

rex desilets wrote:Holy cow! Who gives a flying f???
Go build a model or something

Yes, Rex, but the conversation has been pretty active and varied, obviously my purpose with this thread.

Building a model, on the other hand , is a solitary adventure , and I am in a place in my life right now where, as usual, I enjoy the company and conversation of others, far far more than whittling at some miniature. I'm not even taking anything to sell, nor going, to York, in October.

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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:58 pm

chuck wrote:Number one, never dress like that on a subway. I don't care how high the temperature is.

Number two, is there more material at the beginning of the clip? It seems to be edited down. Several (not all) of the men garbed as Hasidic Jews seem to have been eyeing the girls long before the exit slap. Their eyes/heads are tracking the women well before the slap on the rump.

Number three, was this staged for Comedy Central? The subway car isn't moving, the only motion is the door opening. There is no way that the number of people standing and not holding on to something is reasonable behavior on a NYC subway. I've ridden enough of them to know you either sit down or hold onto something. The trains are capable of considerable acceleration and the curves are very tight. The only guy that look legit is the one closest to the camera. He's at least touching the pole.

I had a girlfriend once who told me she wore a bikini on the NY Subway. The conductor told her to get off and go put some clothes on.
USA Today reports: "Question: What do a bikini, a parka and flannel pajamas have in common? Answer: You could see them all being worn by occupants of a single subway car in New York City."

Yes, the two girls, Ilana Glazer and Abbi Jacobson (creators and writers of the show,) walk through several cars. Each car has some things you can see on the New York Subway. Here is their entrance to the Car of Rabbis:
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Those men on the train practice a form of Judaism that requires that they are rachmanim, merciful; bayshanim, have a sense of shame; and gomlei chasadim, perform acts of kindness. Upon first spotting the girls (above image) they all turn their eyes away and try to be shy.

They also have rules about sex. Traditional Judaism, unlike some other faiths, regards touching as a highly sensual act. It takes the view that it is not only an important part of marital relations, but one that is only permitted in those relations. To shake hands as a casual courtesy and nothing more is the first step leading to the desensitization of sensuality between husband and wife.

Rabbi Baruch Emmanuel Erdstein of Safed, who holds a degree in anthropology from the University of Michigan, states that "the casual touching of members of the opposite gender can only dull our sensitivity to the sexual power of touch."

The actress who did the slap, Ilana Glazer, was raised in a Reform Jewish household. She fully understands the shocking behaviour shown in the clip. The concept of the show is making the smallest and mundane events hysterical and disturbing to watch all at the same time. Based on the reaction so far, she succeeded with this group of MTJers.

The whole episode was staged, the train was not moving. Ilana does not always follow the script so it is possible the man she butt slapped had no idea that was coming.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:36 pm

Thank you, so much, Wayne. As usual, you add much of value to a conversation.
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Accuracy and facts.
Intelligent interpretation of the Statement that was made.
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Re: Statements

Postby Roy » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:56 pm

I'm surprised to see this pop up again. I see that the coming season of Broad City will be their last, and it won't be shown until 2019.
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Postby sleepmac » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:36 pm

Wayne, I appreciate your enlightening us!

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Re: Statements

Postby E7 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:10 pm

HONDO74 wrote:I sure hope your brain is not located in that part of your body. :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


You're the guy who couldn't figure out it was Comedy Central.

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Postby HONDO74 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:45 pm

E7 wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:I sure hope your brain is not located in that part of your body. :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


You're the guy who couldn't figure out it was Comedy Central.


Well I obviously had my head up my $ss when I was looking at it because I thought it was real and not a hoax. However I doubt that I will get an aneurysm from it. I'll just have a shitty outlook for awhile. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Statements

Postby E7 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:01 am

HONDO74 wrote:
E7 wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:I sure hope your brain is not located in that part of your body. :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


You're the guy who couldn't figure out it was Comedy Central.


Well I obviously had my head up my $ss when I was looking at it because I thought it was real and not a hoax. However I doubt that I will get an aneurysm from it. I'll just have a shitty outlook for awhile. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:13 am

I would say about the tabletop sculpture, "Art is in the eye of the artist."
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Re: Statements

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:00 am

webenda wrote:I would say about the tabletop sculpture, "Art is in the eye of the artist."


I never could figure out why anyone in their right mind would pay a very large sum of money for a painting of a Campbell's soup can. :?: :?:

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Postby Roy » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:09 am

How many of these Birds in Space did Brancusi make, in the twenty-whatever years he was working on them? And, are they more Statements, or Whatzits?
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:51 am

webenda wrote:I would say about the tabletop sculpture, "Art is in the eye of the artist."

This conversation is already enjoyable, for me, at least, because "...in the eye of the artist" is so true, in my philosophy.

That is, I am of the opinion that when we have something to say but cannot find the suitable words to do so, we turn to the fine arts, the performing arts/to music, to express our message. People may not receive our message, but we spoke. We made our statement. There is no guarantee, even when using words, that our Statement will be accepted or completely understood, let alone appreciated. So, yes, the art is in the eye of the artist.
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:00 am

Roy wrote:How many of these Birds in Space did Brancusi make, in the twenty-whatever years he was working on them? And, are they more Statements, or Whatzits?

Oh, I think that is brilliant, Roy. :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :D :!: :!: :!: :!: When I first heard about Brancusi and his Bird in Space, I actually made a "pilgrimage" to see it in-person, at the MoMA. As soon as I entered the room in which it was displayed, I received the Statement before I was even right in front of the sculpture. To me, the message was not a portrait of a bird but, rather, a snapshot of the bird having been present, of the bird having been there for a moment, and now in flight. I loved its succinct and sensitive message. A few friends with me simply rolled their eyes at me and the sculpture. Well, as Wayne stated, "art is in the eye of the artist," and , as I would add, in the eye of some of us listeners. :D

Thanks, Roy. Your saying that was excellent.
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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:08 am

HONDO74 wrote:
webenda wrote:I would say about the tabletop sculpture, "Art is in the eye of the artist."


I never could figure out why anyone in their right mind would pay a very large sum of money for a painting of a Campbell's soup can. :?: :?:

I felt as you have, HONDO. I can recall very clearly seeing one of those soup can lithographs displayed in a small gallery window, in Greenwich Village, NYC, back in the early 70's. It had a price tag, a modest one, approachable for me at that time, but I balked, as you just expressed, at anybody wanting such an image and paying for it to hang on a wall, rather than discarding it along with its empty can.

Boy, talk about having no artistic vision whatsoever! :roll: :oops: :( Sshhheeeessshhh! :roll:


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