CRISIS ON THE BORDER

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:06 am

Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:12 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.


That's the way it works..... :(


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The Caribbean island of Hispaniola is home to two countries: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Both have a population of around 10 million — but that’s about where their similarities end.

The average Haitian is nearly 10 times poorer than the average Dominican, and much more likely to be unemployed. And that poverty manifests in drastic disparities in health. The infant mortality rate in Haiti is more than twice the rate in the DR, and the prevalence of HIV/AIDS is almost double.

There is discrimination against Haitians in the DR And it shows up in existing amendments to the Dominican constitution that strip citizenship from those of Haitian descent.

The social realities of these nations were centuries in the making, rooted in a colonial past that you can quickly detect in the language of its residents: Haitian French and Dominican Spanish.

When the French and Spanish empires descended on the island centuries ago, they began drawing the diverging paths that led to the inequity we see today. There is no understanding Haiti without understanding the slave-based plantation economy that the French installed on the western side of Hispaniola.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby gregj410 » Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:10 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.


Only if you voted for Joey the Dunce or any other democrat. Then it’s a free for all....open borders galore! Gotta get them voters some how. It’s hard to beat rigged elections and Santa Claus.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:13 am

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET ……. !!!
A JOB, A DRIVERS LICENSE,
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE,
FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE,
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU
PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.


I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION !!!

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby E7 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:53 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.


Murph, Congratulations, I see the light has come on!
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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby bob turner » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:03 pm

There are subtleties, but I agree - we cannot simply accept everyone who comes from a country whose citizens opt for a dictatorship.
I feel that way about the Afghanis - we tried to help, but they want a religious dictatorship, and managed to get one in 11 days after 20 years of our efforts. I know nothing about the Haitians, except that if they are so incompetent as citizens as to allow the corrupt governments they get, then by golly they should live that way.

And being only one of two liberals on this thread, I admit that when Trump was elected in 2016, my attitude was that we deserved him. We followed our process and elected him. I might be tempted to go to Canada if we do that again, but I would not blame the Canadians if they say "no, Bob, you elected him, now live with him."

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby gregj410 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:34 pm

I might be tempted to go to Canada if we do that again,


I hear this all the time....if it would only come to fruition with more libs. FWIW I’d be happy to chip in on the plane ticket :wink:

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby robert. » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:42 pm

How did the Haitians get to Mexico?
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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:15 pm

robert. wrote:How did the Haitians get to Mexico?


Long swim.....
I look both ways before crossing a one-way street. That’s how little faith I have left in humanity.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:49 pm

robert. wrote:How did the Haitians get to Mexico?

That seems an important question, to me.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:50 pm

E7 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.


Murph, Congratulations, I see the light has come on!

Yeah, when was it decided that we were the step-parents of the Southern Hemisphere (at least) ?

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:59 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
robert. wrote:How did the Haitians get to Mexico?

That seems an important question, to me.


Is something to ponder. I wonder how most people got here....
I look both ways before crossing a one-way street. That’s how little faith I have left in humanity.

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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby E7 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:34 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
E7 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Are we in the USA expected to simply adopt them all simply because they show up at and over our borders uninvited? If so, when does it stop/ No limit? Hey taxpayers, here's the bill.


Murph, Congratulations, I see the light has come on!


Yeah, when was it decided that we were the step-parents of the Southern Hemisphere (at least) ?


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Re: CRISIS ON THE BORDER

Postby E7 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:40 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
robert. wrote:How did the Haitians get to Mexico?

That seems an important question, to me.


Is something to ponder. I wonder how most people got here....


Many of them were BORN here.....and a large pile more are here illegally, illegal apparently being a concept a lot of people and some of you folks either can't understand or ignore.

Maybe some of you should reread Hondo's post from above:

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER
ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY
YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET ……. !!!
A JOB, A DRIVERS LICENSE,
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE,
FOOD STAMPS, CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE,
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU
PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.
"This space for rent"


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