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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 15, 2026 11:19 am

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
bob turner wrote:Try "just overpriced."[i]


Like the $500 IMP steeplecab, :roll:



And the $3000 Lobaugh Challenger or the $4400 KTM FEF3. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


The steeplecab just dropped to $450, :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby Pacific Limited » Mon Jun 15, 2026 6:18 pm

bob turner wrote:Try "just overpriced."

A fallacy is a defect in reasoning that weakens an argument, rendering it invalid, unsound, or deceptive


:lol: Absolutely :D
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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby Pacific Limited » Mon Jun 15, 2026 9:28 pm

https://ebay.io/m/DfjkOV

This is beyond any reasoning I can come up with. :lol: Fallacy or not… it’s just plain bananas.
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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 15, 2026 10:14 pm

The price is quite high, but never forget - nobody is forced to buy these things. If you could get it for a grand, I suspect it would look great in some rattle can black. I converted a Lionel FEF to 2-rail, and it is exceedingly well detailed. It appears accurate, and makes my USH look a bit toy-like.

Outrageous is a good word - I note that somebody has split up a Scale Craft K4 without rods or valve gear, and the total before shipping if you win both auctions, is $400. Not outrageous; just triple what it is worth. I have the rods, but wouldn't consider the locomotive and tender for more than $100.

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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:16 am

Pacific Limited wrote:https://ebay.io/m/DfjkOV

This is beyond any reasoning I can come up with. :lol: Fallacy or not… it’s just plain bananas.


And note the sellers moniker: frugalqueen
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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby up148 » Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:16 am

Well, it must be a very special Lionel model....maybe the pilot or ??? But, it just shows that we have gougers in all scales and number of rails. Buying them IS a choice, but it always disgusts me when I see it never-the-less. I was told by a 3R collector that the high prices for Lionel are in the past.........apparently this seller doesn't know that, choses to ignore it or most likely doesn't care.

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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby Pacific Limited » Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:19 am

For sure! To each his own.
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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby up148 » Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:30 pm

Glad the 3R guys enjoy.

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Re: Key UP FEF 4-8-4

Postby 86TA355SR » Tue Jun 16, 2026 6:13 pm

The new “craze” in 3R is custom, small quantity, “fantasy schemes” done by certain train stores, ie, Mr Muffin/Train World/etc that are not done by Lionel or MTH in a current catalog. Typically the manufacturer announces the “base” model (in this case a Big Boy) and then the train stores try to fulfill a minimum order number for the “special” edition version their selling. Hence, the 3R secondary market can demand a premium price for the “custom run” version, because, after all, it’s a limited quantity produced (sarcasm).

Safe to say, it’s not our thing but others enjoy it. Which is great for them.


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