Mark Knopfler

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I agree with most of the names as representing some of the top players, not the order, and there are many I might put in the top 25 that are not listed at all.

I think that this is like many lists - highly subjective - and depends on what you consider "best" and "rock".

[Roy]

WAY too many clicks. I expect to have to click, but not 25 times for a list of 25!

[E7]

WAY too many clicks. I expect to have to click, but not 25 times for a list of 25!

Exactly, and KICK off all the DEAD people because they ain't playing guitars, they're playing Harps!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

WAY too many clicks. I expect to have to click, but not 25 times for a list of 25!

Exactly, and KICK off all the DEAD people because they ain't playing guitars, they're playing Harps!

Sadly, many of the dead ones are still better than many of the live ones today hailed as "guitarists",

[E7]

WAY too many clicks. I expect to have to click, but not 25 times for a list of 25!

Exactly, and KICK off all the DEAD people because they ain't playing guitars, they're playing Harps!

Sadly, many of the dead ones are still better than many of the live ones today hailed as "guitarists",

Maybe so, but I'm NOT interested in attending any of their concerts!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Exactly, and KICK off all the DEAD people because they ain't playing guitars, they're playing Harps!

Sadly, many of the dead ones are still better than many of the live ones today hailed as "guitarists",

Maybe so, but I'm NOT interested in attending any of their concerts!

Their recorded works remain behind - you're not going to attend Bach at the pipe organ either any time soon.

But, I'm not interested in attending concerts anymore at all. Too loud, too expensive, and crowds that I don't need. Very few that I'd pay anything to see in person any more.

So, I'm listening to internet radio - prog station - in the home office and in the car, Mott the Hoople Live from 1974 - the remastered and much, much longer concert recordings than were available on vinyl. 1st hard rock band on roadway at the Uris; BTW, the opening act was Queen.

Interesting review of the latter's performance:

Queen, another British band, opened the bill. This was its first New York performance as part of its first United States tour, and the group made a mixed impression. It was enjoyable enough to listen to, particularly Brian May's virtuosic guitar playing. But Freddie Mercury, the lead singer, is addicted to toothy, unconvincing posturings, and the other three members just stand about limply, unable to provide much visual relief.

[E7]

But, I'm not interested in attending concerts anymore at all. Too loud, too expensive, and crowds that I don't need. Very few that I'd pay anything to see in person any more.

So, I'm listening to internet radio - prog station - in the home office and in the car, Mott the Hoople Live from 1974 - the remastered and much, much longer concert recordings than were available on vinyl.

We are of like mind regarding concerts for mostly the same reasons. You mention a word that I hoped to never see again: vinyl. The new buzz word at a lot of places. All I think of when I hear it is platters that are as wavy as potato chips with more snap crackle and pops than Rice Krispies, and the need for 10 times the storage space. No thanks! Give me a CD or MP3.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Give me a CD or MP3.

Both of those formats are almost passe now as well. There are several digital formats that are supposedly less lossy and stable. Note, "supposedly"; my ears combined with my available music systems simply are not high enough quality to register ultrafine differences anymore

[E7]

Give me a CD or MP3.

Both of those formats are almost passe now as well. There are several digital formats that are supposedly less lossy and stable. Note, "supposedly"; my ears combined with my available music systems simply are not high enough quality to register ultrafine differences anymore

I have a lot fewer qualms about moving forward than moving backward. I'm sure I can find some new format that suits, but I am NOT reverting to records. I managed to acquire Tinnitus after 14 years sitting in front of a diesel engine but the interesting thing is that unless I think about it, I'm pretty much oblivious to the ringing. I probably can't hear soft sounds like I once did, but I enjoy good music, same as ever.

[rogruth]

Give me a CD or MP3.

Both of those formats are almost passe now as well. There are several digital formats that are supposedly less lossy and stable. Note, "supposedly"; my ears combined with my available music systems simply are not high enough quality to register ultrafine differences anymore

This developed in my ears at least 40 years ago. I remember visiting some high tech, read expensive, shops that had the " best" of gear and "you will think you are actually at the concert". Now remember that my tastes were more for orchestral "classical". I did not hear all those subtle things that the great ears were hearing.
I had a college prof that attended the University of Vienna in the early 1930s and was a huge opera fan. He would invite me to his house to listen to opera recordings that he had, many were 78 rpm and very scratchy.At this time I was not yet 20 years old and could hear how bad these recordings were.
Eventually I realized that he was not hearing these recordings. They were only remeinders of what he had heard at the opera in Vienna. No way is my intellect on the same level as his but I did progress to hearing what I had heard at live concerts and good recordings in my younger days.
Along with bad eyes, I don't need any high def or fi anything these days. Do I miss having those abilities. Oh yes.

[E7]

Roger,

That's the conundrum. The only reference we have is what we hear ourselves. i have no idea what you are hearing and vice versa.

[rogruth]

Roger,

That's the conundrum. The only reference we have is what we hear ourselves. i have no idea what you are hearing and vice versa.

The same as it is with pain.
I guess I wasn't clear. I remember what I heard and realize that I can not hear that now.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Your conversation makes me think of Beethoven and his being able to put what he heard in his head down on paper, to be played into glory by musicians everywhere.

[Roy]

Your conversation makes me think of Beethoven and his being able to put what he heard in his head down on paper, to be played into glory by musicians everywhere.

Which reminds me that none of The Beatles could write music. I just recently learned that.

[HONDO74]

although some of the band’s earlier songs are covers from the other artists like Twist and Shout, Words of Love, Long Tall Sally, Please Mister Postman, Roll Over Beethoven, etc.

Majority of the Beatles are written John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Ever since the band was formed, John and Paul made a deal together that they would write the songs for the band together and majority of the songs that they write would have Lennon-McCartney credit. Earlier on, John and Paul wrote the songs together “eyeball-to-eyeball.” Then, as John and Paul got older, they write their songs separately although they still helped each other.

George Harrison finally wrote songs for the band during the later part of the band’s career. George started to sharpen his songwriting attempt from Help! and Rubber Soul albums, although he already showed an attempt to write a song titled Don’t Bother Me during the earlier part of the band’s career.