Southern Pacific Steam 2023

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby Dennis Holler » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:50 pm

Yes, it needs so fixing, that was loose before the seller wrapped it up. Think the package weighed about 13 pounds so probably about par for the course.
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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:37 pm

Dennis, in this picture what is the small brass engine. The reason I ask is because I just bought one that looks like it. The one I bought is a 2-6-0 the ID tag on the bottom says KTM and a MG in a diamond with what looks like a serial number.

I bought it from a friend of mine that bought out a 2 rail O gauge collection that had been sitting in a barn for years.
I only bought it as a shelf piece. I don't even know if it runs

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby sarge » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:38 am

Hondo, what you have is a Porter Mogul made by Katsumi (KTM) in Japan and imported by Max Gray (Perfection Models) in 1959. It retailed new at $109.

Hope it helps.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 11:20 am

Thank you for the information about it. I tried looking up info about it but the only thing I saw was an HO model that looked like it. There is a lever in the cab that I assume is a reversing switch and that this is DC powered. If I could post pictures here I would but I can't

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby sarge » Sat Jul 19, 2025 11:58 am

Both of those assumptions are correct. The motor has a wound rotor and stator (a "wound field" motor) so requires a switch to reverse the polarity of one without changing the other. They are intended for DC operation, though theoretically could run on AC. Never tried it so no idea whether the motor would heat up doing so and potentially damage itself.

If you can send me a photo through email, I can post it for you if you'd like. I know Healey has done the same for you, has he not?

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:03 pm

I will get some pictures take today and send them to healey. The person I bought this from has a lot more that he is going to sell Plus he has a lot of track that came with all of it.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby healey36 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 8:34 pm

Guys, here's the photos you sent me, Hondo...if you need them blown up, let me know.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby sarge » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:54 am

Yep, that's what it is.

Looks in pretty pristine shape, too.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:16 pm

sarge wrote:Looks in pretty pristine shape, too.


Indeed and very nice. Not a lot of earlier era O scale locos out there......
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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:51 pm

That little Mogul is indeed a nice model. The variety of models that KTM produced over the years is remarkable, at least to me. My understanding is that most (or all?) of the Max Gray, U.S. Hobbies, and Westside models were KTMs. And I want to say IMP models were also KTM. How about Toby? Was that an importer or a Japanese model builder?

Had some SP steam action on the club layout this weekend:

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby sarge » Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:29 am

In O scale, IMP I believe was all Katsumi (KTM). Max was mostly KTM with a few pieces done by Toby (another Japanese builder) as was US Hobbies. Westside did several with KTM but also with the Koreans (Samhongsa for one). PSC did a few projects (the PSC "Crown" series) with KTM as well before pretty much everything shifted to Korea.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby bob turner » Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:57 pm

Here is the Lobaugh version of that MT-4, copied from page 2 of this thread:

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Dennis - all of your links are disappearing - you should consider Shutterfly.

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby bob turner » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:31 pm

Delighted to see this place revived. We owe most of it to Brian and Martin - we lived through the dry period.
We appear to be considerably more active than the OGR counterpart.

I do like the cabooses and especially the doorstop 44 ton Diesel!

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby up148 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:16 pm

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Re: Southern Pacific Steam 2023

Postby steamaheadstephen59 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:19 pm

ImageDennis or any one, I've taken to posting my pictures to facebook for my friends there, then I can copy the address, and share them with you. I also have a KTM Magul, mine has an open frame DC permanent magnet motor, but etched into the side of the tender are some Japanese writing. My friends elsewhere loved this one. The truth is they probably think me boring.


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