Lobaugh Challengers
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Very fine lead shot and white glue. Trick he learned from Bob Hyde.
When that dried white glue gets wet, it expands/swells. Badly.
Picking it out was safer healthwise than a torch.
When that dried white glue gets wet, it expands/swells. Badly.
Picking it out was safer healthwise than a torch.
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Carey Williams
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Lobaugh made a great running Challenger ..I'm fortunate to have a nice running pair of the pre-war models . ..they needed very little encouragement to take to the rails again. .
Please see link
https://youtu.be/prDWTVSGtgs?si=MzpUJgiJlpTKpOLz
Cheers Carey
Please see link
https://youtu.be/prDWTVSGtgs?si=MzpUJgiJlpTKpOLz
Cheers Carey
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bob turner
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One does. See the NP Challenger on page 1. I submit that my Challenger is the only dual powered model ever where you cannot see the gearbox or drive shaft (or a Lionel-like curtain hiding same).
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bob turner wrote:One does. See the NP Challenger on page 1. I submit that my Challenger is the only dual powered model ever where you cannot see the gearbox or drive shaft (or a Lionel-like curtain hiding same).
Talking to Carey.....but, I seriously cannot recall visibility issues on the Woody/Maroon D&H unit. Boy does that work good.
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bob turner
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Just realized that. The Lobaugh gear boxes are quite low - barely visible, and prewar they are rectangular, which is to my eye not as offensive as the postwar gearbox.
The Lobaugh gears can be mistreated - usually by improper mesh - and the Bakelite axle gear can get damaged. One must use caution on assembly.
Newer NWSL have the same problem - you need to open up the axle bearing area with (from memory) a #J drill and sandpaper. Wrap the sandpaper around the drill and carefully open the gearbox until it fits half the bearing. Do the same for the cap. Look for a reasonable fit with no gap between the box and cap, viewed from the side.
Raoul's glass filled gearbox casting was perfect, and needs no adjusting.
The Lobaugh gears can be mistreated - usually by improper mesh - and the Bakelite axle gear can get damaged. One must use caution on assembly.
Newer NWSL have the same problem - you need to open up the axle bearing area with (from memory) a #J drill and sandpaper. Wrap the sandpaper around the drill and carefully open the gearbox until it fits half the bearing. Do the same for the cap. Look for a reasonable fit with no gap between the box and cap, viewed from the side.
Raoul's glass filled gearbox casting was perfect, and needs no adjusting.
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bob turner
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Somebody help. I am on the top three threads.
Just putting the finishing touches on a rear engine for a new Jabelmann Challenger. Looking for a front frame casting and cylinder block. Not a big deal; I can make both. Just thinking about authenticity. I got a bunch of spare parts from Bob Stevenson, and they really look good - crossheads, guides, rods, eccentrics - I may have more Challengers than any kid on the block.
Just putting the finishing touches on a rear engine for a new Jabelmann Challenger. Looking for a front frame casting and cylinder block. Not a big deal; I can make both. Just thinking about authenticity. I got a bunch of spare parts from Bob Stevenson, and they really look good - crossheads, guides, rods, eccentrics - I may have more Challengers than any kid on the block.
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bob turner
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Nobody? I used the last of the black Scale Coat that Jay C sent me a couple years ago. The old airbrush is spitting and snorting - time for a new one! But then I would need readily available paint, and so far all I know of is the True Color stuff at eight bucks an ounce plus ten bucks shipping. I guess that is a bargain in 2025, but I am living in 1974.
Tonight I am assembling the boiler on to the mechanism - trying not to uncouple the front engine, yet get everything set up without too much scratched paint. I am after Gersh for UP decals and a chosen road number. Photos next week.
Am I all alone around here?
Tonight I am assembling the boiler on to the mechanism - trying not to uncouple the front engine, yet get everything set up without too much scratched paint. I am after Gersh for UP decals and a chosen road number. Photos next week.
Am I all alone around here?
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bob turner wrote:Nobody?
Am I all alone around here?
apparently!
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steamaheadstephen59
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Im here Bob and watching with interest. I only have bits and pieces for the Challenger and need cylinders etc too. So nothing to share at this stage. I have the KTM Challenger but you have all seen that.
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SWrailroader
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Bob,
Also interested as always. Presumably you put in the good word to fix my account on MTJ. Thank you. I have always liked the Challengers. The proportion just seems right unlike the Big Boy to my eye.
Rob
Also interested as always. Presumably you put in the good word to fix my account on MTJ. Thank you. I have always liked the Challengers. The proportion just seems right unlike the Big Boy to my eye.
Rob
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bob turner
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Agree. From page 1 of this thread:

Note that those are your decals. Mostly Lobaugh, but wood block tender, and dual motor independent drive to the engines.
Note that those are your decals. Mostly Lobaugh, but wood block tender, and dual motor independent drive to the engines.
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bob turner
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This one was long ago finished, and awaits Greyhound decals. Yes, I changed the trailing truck.

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SWrailroader
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Re: Lobaugh Challengers
Bob,
The wood block tender is a very nice rendition. Kind of inspires me to make a slope back tender that ATSF used on their older steam, like the 2-10-10-2. What kind of wood and sealer did you use? The challengers look very nice.
Rob
The wood block tender is a very nice rendition. Kind of inspires me to make a slope back tender that ATSF used on their older steam, like the 2-10-10-2. What kind of wood and sealer did you use? The challengers look very nice.
Rob
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