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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:53 am

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robert. wrote: I found the answer. 1.8 die per second. We gain 0.8 people per second


Then by those numbers overall the population is not increasing.


Yep, looks like net gain of .8 humans per second, unless you're factoring in something else.


This is all probably a gross simplification of reality.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby bob turner » Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:26 pm

I don't check in here often - seems useless. And I don't know what the numbers are, but population is increasing fairly rapidly, if no longer exponentially.

Hondo's numbers seem semi-correct, except maybe for the 1900 years part, and maybe the 9 billion part- not sure we are there yet.

But I agree with Butch. What we need, and what I am not qualified to understand, is an economic system that works for all, and yet does not depend on growth.

No kids or grandkids, and I may not last to see either Trump anointed President for Life or LA run out of water. Burning avgas as fast as I can, given that I have very small aircraft and ancient automobiles, and badly contributing to pollution/warming. Wouldn't be a problem with a billion people, room for tigers and giraffes, and some steam engines. But I suspect that nine billion will be close to a breaking point even if we spread them out as Martin suggests. Anybody want to live in Northern Nevada? They still have water, steam engines, and decent climate if you don't mind 90 degrees in the Summer. And lots of space for expansion.

Yep. Keep skipping the vaccine. We may have a solution to overpopulation at hand.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:40 pm

bob turner wrote:I don't check in here often - seems useless. And I don't know what the numbers are, but population is increasing fairly rapidly, if no longer exponentially.


Except that the numbers do not support that it is growing....which is why I question their reliability

.........I may not last to see ..........LA run out of water.


Oh, you just might.....

But I suspect that nine billion will be close to a breaking point even if we spread them out as Martin suggests. Anybody want to live in Northern Nevada? They still have water, steam engines, and decent climate if you don't mind 90 degrees in the Summer. And lots of space for expansion.


No need to go to extremes. Most of many states are empty. If we just get decent connectivity wherein folks can work from home easier, that solves a lot of issues very quickly. If I had decent internet connectivity in PA at my house there, I'd be there where cost of living is far less..........although taxes and electricity cost more.

Yep. Keep skipping the vaccine. We may have a solution to overpopulation at hand.


Sadly true. Self correcting situational and Darwinian solution, too
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:51 am

Interesting that they can detect the virus in wastewater.

Missouri lab detected Delta COVID-19 variant in wastewater weeks before first case was reported
Missouri is seeing a surge in new COVID-19 cases largely due to the Delta variant
https://www.foxnews.com/health/missouri ... e-reported

A University of Missouri professor who is leading a study of COVID-19 in wastewater said his lab detected the Delta variant weeks before the first case was reported. The state is currently seeing a surge due to the Delta variant and has just under 50% of its adult population fully vaccinated.

"We detected it in the first wastewater facility on May 10, a week later we saw it in four different wastewater treatment facilities and by the third week it was everywhere," Marc Johnson, study lead, told Fox 2 Now. "It was across the state, all different parts."

Wastewater surveillance has been used to pinpoint potential COVID-19 clusters in colleges, cities and communities. Johnson said the Bond Life Science Center is the only facility in the state testing wastewater samples, according to the report. He told Fox 2 Now that the lab receives around nine gallons of wastewater weekly.

"We get the data and usually within a matter of hours forward that data to the Department of Health and Senior Services and within the next day they upload that information to all the county health departments," Johnson told the news outlet.

He warned that there will likely be more variants to emerge.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:14 am

HONDO74 wrote:Interesting that they can detect the virus in wastewater.


Huh? They were doing that a year ago when they were doing tracing in 2020.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:10 pm

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This should help move things along.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby v8vega » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:22 am

Boy am I sick of that ahole and his cohearts.
ABC TV a arm of the Democrat party is giving it all they got to keep the hysteria going.


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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:04 pm

If dying is your Goal then you’ve got the right plan.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:33 pm

CDC: Delta variant accounts for 83% of US cases

https://www.ky3.com/2021/07/20/cdc-delt ... -us-cases/

NEW YORK — Health officials say the delta variant of the coronavirus continues to surge and accounts for an estimated 83% of U.S. COVID-19 cases.

That’s a dramatic increase from the week of July 3, when the variant accounted for about 50% of genetically sequenced coronavirus cases.

“The best way to prevent the spread of COVID-19 variants is to prevent the spread of disease, and vaccination is the most powerful tool we have,” said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director if the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during a U.S. Senate hearing Tuesday.

The delta variant is a mutated coronavirus that spreads more easily than other versions. It was first detected in India but now has been identified around the world.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:16 pm

If you consider concern about a public health emergency that might kill another 500,000 to 1,000,000 people in the USA in the next year or so (almost all unvaccinated most likely) hysteria, I definitely have a great deal on a bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn that you will want to consider. :)

Try not to allow your politics to interfere with your common sense. Fauci hasn't been right about everything (none of us have) but his knowledge and judgement are very good, and he is totally without a political bone in his body. Just not his thing. The fact that he has contradicted meatheads like Trump and his loyal followers is not a reason to consider his opinions political. They are totally based upon the science and clinical evidence we have, which is obviously not always perfect.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Neil wrote:If you consider concern about a public health emergency that might kill another 500,000 to 1,000,000 people in the USA in the next year or so (almost all unvaccinated most likely) hysteria, I definitely have a great deal on a bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn that you will want to consider. :)


What is overlooked almost completely is that those that get the virus and survive quite frequently are burdened with additional health issues that are apparently not going away and that poses a long-term health issue for the country (and the world).
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:43 pm

Neil wrote:Try not to allow your politics to interfere with your common sense. Fauci hasn't been right about everything (none of us have) but his knowledge and judgement are very good, and he is totally without a political bone in his body. Just not his thing. The fact that he has contradicted meatheads like Trump and his loyal followers is not a reason to consider his opinions political. They are totally based upon the science and clinical evidence we have, which is obviously not always perfect.


Not sure how you came to the conclusion that what I posted was political, It was meant as a warning that this variant is spreading fast. Even close to where I live.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:53 pm

I wasn’t responding to your post but the Fauci hatred. :D
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:01 pm

HONDO74 wrote:It was meant as a warning that this variant is spreading fast. Even close to where I live.


Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas have some seriously high numbers of cases......and then there are a few others not far behind. Correlates well with low vaccination rates in those same states.
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