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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:59 pm

I have forgotten more about science and medicine in the last 10 minutes than you’ve known in your entire life :-). My only commitment is to saving lives and reducing suffering while yours is to some perverse political agenda that has nothing to do with human happiness and wellbeing.
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Postby robert. » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:35 pm

If you’re that forgetful. You should turn in your medical license. :wink:
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Postby Neil » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:17 pm

The opposition to Tony Fauci and public health measures such as masks comes from ignoramuses and nincompoops driven by their ideology, nothing to do with science, however imperfect. It's amazing to me that people will follow political leaders who are entirely ignorant and not very bright. Their loyalty is based upon their ideology. Ignorance, incompetence and rejection of science have become core values of a significant proportion of our population, primarily associated with the Republican party and religious fanatics. The religious fanatics have always been with us, but this degree of stupidity amongst a major political party is a new "thing."
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Postby rogruth » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:24 pm

There are some forum members that would liketo find a wayto increase the number of MTJ members.
Even though I would like to see an increase in forum members I am worried about keeping the members that we have.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby rogruth » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:27 pm

In my own naive way I can see the above exchange as being in reference to any political party.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:22 pm

Some parents in my school district are passing around a petition. They want to have segregated classes for vaxed and nonvaxed kids. If people are vaccinated why do the worry about being around unvaccinated people? They want these segregated classes for all grades.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:48 pm

rogruth wrote:There are some forum members that would liketo find a wayto increase the number of MTJ members.
Even though I would like to see an increase in forum members I am worried about keeping the members that we have.


As long as you have trolls like Neil on MTJ that would rather so discord among the brethren than contribute any real train content, this place will never grow. It’s telling that he can’t even access other forums or join because he’s such a p-r-i-c-k that no one wants to allow him in. I’m amazed that someone that’s doing so much for humanity isn’t welcomed with open arms on any train forum.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:20 pm

I'll remind everyone that Greg is the one indulging in personal attacks and political commentary from a fascist perspective :). Not to mention advocating public health and medical policies that will kill people in some instances. Based upon his zero training and experience in medicine and epidemiology judging from the misinformation he is peddling.

As for train forums, there are a significant number of political wingnuts like Greg who don't want to hear alternate opinions. People like Greg would like to silence those who disagree with their political views. Very American, if you consider fascism American.

In any case, I have no real desire to discuss politics on a train forum. In all cases, I have responded to posts by folks like Greg when they post information that is wrong or harmful. It's hilarious to be described as a troll by the most active troll on this website.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:12 pm

Gregg posted some nice models that he built.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby gregj410 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:16 pm

In any case, I have no real desire to discuss politics on a train forum. In all cases, I have responded to posts by folks like Greg when they post information that is wrong or harmful.


Oh you can’t wait to discuss politics on a train forum which is why you get thrown off of so many of them. You feel it’s your civil duty to correct all of those that don’t agree with your leftist ideology. As for personal insults you are the queen of insults. Suck it up big boy. I can send you some coloring books and you can find a safe space in your doctors office where you can work things out.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:28 am

"Gregg posted some nice models that he built."

Swell. Makes him an expert on coronavirus. Except that his advice will possibly get you and your family killed.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:30 am

"You feel it’s your civil duty to correct all of those that don’t agree with your leftist ideology."

The virus has no ideology, unlike you. I hate ideology, leftist or otherwise. You don't have the intellectual skills or subtlety to notice.
Enough already. You go post your insane bull about Donald Trump being the GOAT and I'll hope that deluded fascists like you come to your senses before we become a banana republic.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:53 am

So what do you intellectuals with skills think about this Like to hear your opinions.....

Lab leak theory, once 'political dynamite,' gains credibility in new study
Alexander Nazaryan
Alexander Nazaryan·National Correspondent
Fri, July 2, 2021, 3:13 PM·15 min read

https://news.yahoo.com/lab-leak-theory- ... 29270.html

The rejections kept coming. The coronavirus was a topic of intense scientific fascination, yet the four Australian researchers challenging conventional wisdom about how the pandemic originated couldn’t find a publisher for their study.

“We were quite stunned,” recalls one of that study’s authors, Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, an endocrinologist at Flinders University in Australia who is also developing a coronavirus vaccine. The work he and his group had done only received what he called “blanket rejections.”

That finally changed late last month, when Nature Scientific Reports published their paper, “In silico comparison of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-ACE2 binding affinities across species and implications for virus origin.”

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:20 am

Everyone has trouble publishing work that pisses people off :). We just finally got our work solving a major clinical problem published in NEJM after decades of trying.

As for origin of the current coronavirus, I haven't read the literature in detail because it's extremely unlikely that definitive proof will become available one way or the other. Doesn't matter. It's not exactly news that new coronaviruses arise that kill lots of people. Just this time, it was a really large number of people, and the public health response was somewhat bungled both in China and elsewhere. This was a largely new clinical phenomenon so not that surprising. What was surprising to me was the totally wrongheaded discouraging of masks early on. Complete idiocy, however well intentioned. From March of 2000 I told my staff to wear masks if they could find them. Ignore the CDC's and WHO's advice, which was clearly wrong to many of us back then as now. Being wrong isn't a sin. I've certainly made mistakes for individual patients and on policy decisions in the 45+ years since getting my MD. True of all of us.

And 70 million Americans were wrong last November :). Voting for a man who is a verifiable monster with no human feelings and not much of a brain. Who then proceeded to screw the nation to an extent with his politically motivated idiotic advice. We're still living with his moronic refusal to wear a mask and turning a public health measure into a sign of loyalty to Der Trumpster. At least the miserable loser SOB did get the vaccine effort supported, I grant him that. But the origins of the virus will remain a mystery no doubt, and it doesn't matter all that much. Although the possibility of a lab origin is a good argument against research of "gain of function" mutations for micro-organisms which attempt to make them more virulent. Probably too dangerous to undertake.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:23 pm

Neil wrote:Everyone has trouble publishing work that pisses people off :). We just finally got our work solving a major clinical problem published in NEJM after decades of trying.


Congrat's. Exceedingly tough publishing there.
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