Has President Trump

[Neil]

One might add that until the Electoral College votes in a 10 days or so, the election isn't over. And even then, when a treasonous ex-general and liar Michael Flynn is suggesting Trump declare martial law and void the election, there is still some fractional tiny chance that things will go awry and we will become the banana republic Trump stands for. And when members of the bar are suggesting shooting election officials and have not been charged to inciting riot, we are on dangerous turf. President Trump, followed by President Trump's son, followed by President Trump's daughter, etc. ad nauseum is what Trump wants and some of his more deranged followers are wanting. Thus until the Secret Service escorts the traitor to America from the White House, lots of people will understandably be obsessed with the guy.

[Neil]

"Only what you post. I could care less about you..."

Glad to hear it. I'm one step ahead of you. I don't care about you or what you post, by and large. Only when you provide medical misinformation do I feel compelled to comment. I'm happy to totally ignore you if you agree to totally ignore me. Seems fair and in the best interests of the MTJ.

[HONDO74]

(1) it's allowing women to have control of their bodies.

Women already have control of their bodies. that's how they got pregnant in the first place

Those are two really interesting perspectives , in my mind. You've given me a whole lot more to think about. You both pretty well summarized the two entirely divergent viewpoints on such a difficult and sensitive topic.

Murph. Aren't you glad you started this thread about the orange Orangutan/hairdo man that has evolved to abortions.

I am not against abortions. There will probably be a lot more in the future to help control the over population of the earth since women don't seem to be able to control their own bodies by not getting impregnated since there are all kinds of contraceptives available to them. They even give them out to grade school and high school kids

I'm not sure why a women would want to go through the agony of an abortion when she could have prevented it in the first place.
Unless she was raped. An abortion would be appropriate for that.

By they way I know two kids that were very glad they weren't aborted. We adopted both of them.

[HONDO74]

"Only what you post. I could care less about you..."

Glad to hear it. I'm one step ahead of you. I don't care about you or what you post, by and large. Only when you provide medical misinformation do I feel compelled to comment. I'm happy to totally ignore you if you agree to totally ignore me. Seems fair and in the best interests of the MTJ.

When have I ever posted any medical misinformation. I started the threads about the virus and the vaccine. But I have never posted any medical misinformation about them. Maybe others have but not me...

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Women already have control of their bodies. that's how they got pregnant in the first place

Those are two really interesting perspectives , in my mind. You've given me a whole lot more to think about. You both pretty well summarized the two entirely divergent viewpoints on such a difficult and sensitive topic.

Murph. Aren't you glad you started this thread about the orange Orangutan/hairdo man ............

He's probably appalled.

[HONDO74]

Those are two really interesting perspectives , in my mind. You've given me a whole lot more to think about. You both pretty well summarized the two entirely divergent viewpoints on such a difficult and sensitive topic.

Murph. Aren't you glad you started this thread about the orange Orangutan/hairdo man ............

He's probably appalled.

WHY would he be appalled ?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I think its always good to hear what others think.

[robert.]

If he had .5 oz. of people skills. He would be a two term president.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Murph. Aren't you glad you started this thread about the orange Orangutan/hairdo man ............

He's probably appalled.

WHY would he be appalled ?

Because of the disharmonious behavior that ensued and how this traveled all about everywhere from his original question:

"Has President Trump decided to leave office with the least amount of personal and official dignity possible"

[Rufus T. Firefly]

If he had .5 oz. of people skills. He would be a two term president.

Or done the slightest correct thing with this pandemic; was a golden opportunity to actually be great and would have been a shoo in and he threw it all away.

[HONDO74]

He's probably appalled.

WHY would he be appalled ?

Because of the disharmonious behavior that ensued and how this traveled all about everywhere from his original question:

"Has President Trump decided to leave office with the least amount of personal and official dignity possible"

If you are asking me that question ? I don't know and don't care. He is past history If you recall I said Biden would be OUR new president. I am only interested in what he is going to do And from what I am reading he is going to have his hands full with China, Russia, Iran and the fat boy in N Korea.

What I would like to see is for Biden to shut down the Keystone pipeline I have been against that from the beginning. It only benefited Canada. They want us to process the dirty tar sand oil so they could sell it to the world and then we have to depose of the residue. Let them build their own refinery's.

[HONDO74]

If he had .5 oz. of people skills. He would be a two term president.

Or done the slightest correct thing with this pandemic; was a golden opportunity to actually be great and would have been a shoo in and he threw it all away.

WTF was he supposed to do that the Idiot Americans would comply with. Biden wants the people to were masks for 100 days. How many will comply with that. They are already fighting it now. Trump had the virus. How did he get over it that others can't. did they give him some kind of miracle treatment that we don't know about ?

[chuck]

How did he get over it that others can't. did they give him some kind of miracle treatment that we don't know about ?

Yes. He was in Walter Reed under 24 hour care. He was granted emergency authorization for access to an experimental antibody therapy.

In addition to the anti-viral drug remdesivir, Trump has also been given the steroid dexamethasone as well as an experimental antibody therapy. And Conley revealed for the first time that Trump has twice been given supplemental oxygen because of low blood oxygen levels. He previously said the president was only given oxygen on Friday.

AKA he was given access to drugs and treatment regimens that are not broadly available and probably will never be so. This was widely reported at the time.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

AKA he was given access to drugs and treatment regimens that are not broadly available and probably will never be so. This was widely reported at the time.

Certainly not going to be available to the general population.

[HONDO74]

AKA he was given access to drugs and treatment regimens that are not broadly available and probably will never be so. This was widely reported at the time.

Certainly not going to be available to the general population.

How come. Sounds like it would save a lot of people.