Southern Pacific Steam 2020

[bob turner]

Roger - I maintain that my SP Mikados are among the best out there. There are one or two better models - Ed Spanknoble made a really good one, but on the whole my models are pretty good. This Ray Waller model, as finished out by John Fisher, is an order of magnitude better than anything I have done, and is better than the Spanknoble model by a factor of two. That is, of course, opinion. Butch's comments are on point.

[bob turner]

Back to Pacifics - here is a flat-out stock Lobaugh 1950s version Pacific. I think the goal was to approach an SP prototype, but it misses by having a USRA boiler and a KCS tender. But still, not a bad model for its time.

[bob turner]

And this one was my very first attempt at Lobaugh, and my second O Scale steam locomotive attempt (the first was a CLW H10, to be seen on the PRR thread soon).

Close to a Rock Island P-30 (or was it P-40?) - I captured the basics for fifty bucks on an overnight in Bakersfield while flying Metroliners up and down the Central Valley. It taught me a lot. At the time, I was not doing 17/64, so in an attempt to keep the track gauge from driving the sideframes beyond the carbodies, I was using 1 1/8" gauge. This think has a Lorenzen gearbox, with a phenolic worm that has never failed (!) and routinely pulls a string of converted freight cars around my inner loop. It has more run time than any of my other models.

It could use dummy driver springs, and yeah, I do have a small stash. Would not mind finding more - I use the coined copper Lobaugh things, soldered together and drilled for 0-80 screws. Takes 12 for a locomotive like this!

[rogruth]

Roger - I maintain that my SP Mikados are among the best out there. There are one or two better models - Ed Spanknoble made a really good one, but on the whole my models are pretty good. This Ray Waller model, as finished out by John Fisher, is an order of magnitude better than anything I have done, and is better than the Spanknoble model by a factor of two. That is, of course, opinion. Butch's comments are on point.

Bob,
I think your models are top of the heap. I don't know enough or have the skills to judge.I just am wondering whar is so good about that loco
and why you say it is the best you have seen.

[bob turner]

Roger - all you need to do is take one of my Mikados and pose it right next to the Waller Mike. If you cannot see the difference, words will not be enough to explain the difference:



While I did not put this one together, it is well done, from 1940. And here is the Waller again, for direct comparison. See the difference?

[bob turner]

This one was done in 1939 by Gerry White, a master model builder:

[rogruth]

Yes, I do. But I suppose I would need at least photos of the real locos to see how the models may vary.
They also seem to be models ofdifferent classes of SR locos.
Both are fantastic looking models to me. A photo of them on a well landscaped layout would have
me believing that I am seeing a photo of the real thing.

[bob turner]

My first O Scale steamer (not counting a pair of Lionel 763s) - a Max Gray MT-4 purchased from George Zane in 1962. I will probably have to pull it apart and soak it in solvent to make it run. This might be one of my very favorite models:

[bob turner]

I have a lot more SP steam, and some Diesels. I am going to follow Maroon's advice - no more photos without some feedback. Wanna see my Berks again? I just killed a thread with them on NK.

[rogruth]

I have a lot more SP steam, and some Diesels. I am going to follow Maroon's advice - no more photos without some feedback. Wanna see my Berks again? I just killed a thread with them on NK.

I want to see any loco you want to show even if I have seen it before.
Just remember that I can't make critical comments about them. only that I like them

[bob turner]

Did I do my 0-6-0s? Here is a stock post-war Lobaugh SP switcher. It is a cross between an S-10 and S-12, with 54" drivers. A pleasing compromise, I think.



Oh - and as a setup, those 54" drivers are close to 51" in 17/64 scale.

[rogruth]

Bob,
What colors are used in the paint job,weathered black, gray, what . I think the paint makes it outstanding.

[J. S. Bach]

Did I do my 0-6-0s? Here is a stock post-war Lobaugh SP switcher. It is a cross between an S-10 and S-12, with 54" drivers. A pleasing compromise, I think. ...snip...

One of your better photos and locomotives.

[bob turner]

One of my better locomotives? Ouch! I thought I was doing at least as well as Lobaugh did, on an individual model basis. Let me see if I have a few more like this - for Roger, the green is just Floquil - it has a little blue mixed in. Red is Box Car red, or just red oxide primer. Weathering is simply chalk, fixed with Dullcote. Decals are Champ. I had Jim Wilhite (RIP) reproduce the "Sunset" shield.

This is the Stevenson Preservation Models version I did for Bob's show display. It is the same general kit, but frame and driver modifications are extensive, and wrappers are all photo etched.



And here it is side by side with the original lost-wax Lobaugh version:



All decals are from a sheet I had done for Bob. Jim had the masters, and I think LaBelle can still produce them. No charge for the artwork, so if you can get them, you can do eight SP locomotives with one sheet. Mostly aimed at switchers and Mikes, but you can get other data from the sheet.

[bob turner]

Much better Stevenson 0-6-0 photo:



Here is its frame - exquisite work! This is what the real thing looks like:



And this is the decal sheet - four of these come on a single page. Check with LaBelle if you want any: