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Re: Seen in Print

Postby robert. » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:18 am

I snapped this @ our local giant last night. what if there is a real disaster? In 2-3 days stock piles would be gone
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:17 am

Roy wrote:
webenda wrote:So true.

O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
--Jeremiah 10:23 King James Version (KJV)

Really? You're quoting from English spoken in 1611?

I grew up with an "old English" Catholic bible to read--I like the language. If you would prefer, here it is in other languages.

23 יָדַ֣עְתִּי יְהוָ֔ה כִּ֛י לֹ֥א לָאָדָ֖ם דַּרְכֹּ֑ו לֹֽא־לְאִ֣ישׁ הֹלֵ֔ךְ וְהָכִ֖ין אֶֽת־צַעֲדֹֽו׃
--Jeremiah 10:23 Hebrew text. Note the second word (from the right) is, "יְהוָ֔ה" --"Yahweh" or "Jehovah" depending on the vowels chosen. The King James version (as well as all Catholic versions) replace God's name with a title, "Lord."

Here it is in modern USA style English:

23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him.
It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
--Jeremiah 10:23 New World Translation (2013 edition)

It all means the same thing, Mankind is doomed to stumble through life making the same mistakes generation after generation. The Bible offers insight into the source of wisdom, but that is for another day, should the subject come up.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:34 am

robert. wrote:I snapped this @ our local giant last night. what if there is a real disaster? In 2-3 days stock piles would be gone


Chickens would take advantage of the situation, through off their chains, revolt, and take over the world :?:

Seriously, total implosion and a reversion to medieval conditions after a loss of about 90+% of the population residing in cities, etc. Sort of like a zombie apocalypse.....
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:36 am

Roy wrote:
webenda wrote:So true.

O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
--Jeremiah 10:23 King James Version (KJV)

Really? You're quoting from English spoken in 1611?


That's also been "translated" and edited along the way.....
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:55 am

webenda wrote:So true.

O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
--Jeremiah 10:23 King James Version (KJV)
Roy wrote:Really? You're quoting from English spoken in 1611?
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:That's also been "translated" and edited along the way.....

Not, if it's a straight KJV. Wayne usually quotes a modern KJ revision. I don't even feel comfortable with those, since the version I read was the New English Bible. (This was before the REB of 1989.)
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:11 am

Roy wrote:
webenda wrote:So true.

O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
--Jeremiah 10:23 King James Version (KJV)
Roy wrote:Really? You're quoting from English spoken in 1611?
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:That's also been "translated" and edited along the way.....

Not, if it's a straight KJV. Wayne usually quotes a modern KJ revision. I don't even feel comfortable with those, since the version I read was the New English Bible. (This was before the REB of 1989.)


Point being that there have been a host of translations and editing over time - one might want to put their "faith" into one version over another, :wink:
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:15 am

webenda wrote:Here it is in modern USA style English:

23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him.
It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
--Jeremiah 10:23 New World Translation (2013 edition)

It all means the same thing, Mankind is doomed to stumble through life making the same mistakes generation after generation. The Bible offers insight into the source of wisdom, but that is for another day, should the subject come up.

I like Rufus' comic version better. John Kenneth Galbraith spoke of the limits of collective memory, especially regarding economics.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:35 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Point being that there have been a host of translations and editing over time - one might want to put their "faith" into one version over another, :wink:

Why would anyone put their faith in something they're likely to misinterpret, on account of language differences they don't understand? How many times have I heard Christians say that God would not let them be deceived? If you don't practice due diligence, at least with regard to properly understanding God's word, I don't see why he wouldn't allow you to be deceived.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:45 am

Roy wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Point being that there have been a host of translations and editing over time - one might want to put their "faith" into one version over another, :wink:

Why would anyone put their faith in something they're likely to misinterpret, on account of language differences they don't understand? How many times have I heard Christians say that God would not let them be deceived? If you don't practice due diligence, at least with regard to properly understanding God's word, I don't see why he wouldn't allow you to be deceived.


Probably falls under that other umbrells described as "free will". :wink:
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Tom Dempsey » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:47 am

webenda wrote:Mankind is doomed to stumble through life making the same mistakes generation after generation.


Perhaps due to Mankind's penchant for collective hubris and excessive self interest.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:02 am

Tom Dempsey wrote:
webenda wrote:Mankind is doomed to stumble through life making the same mistakes generation after generation.


Perhaps due to Mankind's penchant for collective hubris and excessive self interest.

To which I would add, bad hair-do's, wild clothing choices, and those hats we love so much (!) :D :roll: :wink:

Oh, and inebriation, too. :mrgreen:

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:21 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Tom Dempsey wrote:
webenda wrote:Mankind is doomed to stumble through life making the same mistakes generation after generation.


Perhaps due to Mankind's penchant for collective hubris and excessive self interest.

To which I would add, bad hair-do's, wild clothing choices, and those hats we love so much (!) :D :roll: :wink:

Oh, and inebriation, too. :mrgreen:


And smart phones.......................and penguins.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:53 am

Smart phones I can see. But penguins? Have we started to mess with them, now, too!?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:00 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Smart phones I can see. But penguins? Have we started to mess with them, now, too!?


And narwhals.......

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:42 pm

Oh fer heavenssake, don't we leave anything alone! We are always sticking our fingers in somewhere, saying to ourselves, "How's this work?" :shock: or "What's in here?" :mrgreen: Yikes. :roll: :wink: Of course, when one considers the Far East, we will, literally, eat anything and everything that ever walked, crawled, flew, slithered, squirmed, hid, ran, swam, oozed, flocked, hopped, waddled, swarmed, or groped itself anywhere. And isn't there a group in Africa that eats dirt? (I'm pretty sure I saw that on some educational channel, years ago.) And we will eat every individual part, too. Every one of them. Need I list them? Nope. :mrgreen:
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