And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

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Carey Williams
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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby Carey Williams » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:50 pm

Hello Domestic Brass folks today we have a pair of Pacific's ..

Scalecraft introduced their SP Pacific in 1938 utilizing the same tender found behind the SP Mountain released the year prior .

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The Lobaugh Pacific listed in the 1953 catalog ... unknown how long it was produced. This example has been built as a B&O Pacific

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bob turner
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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:47 pm

Both very nice looking. Here is another well done Scale Craft, followed by a Lobaugh:

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby up148 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:52 am

Bob, I was re-reading a 1989 or 1990 copy of OSN and there was your article on building a Lobaugh (I think) Northern into a UP FEF-1. I was amazed that the kit came with sprung and equalized drivers with working equalizers like on later KTM/USA, Sofue, Koh's and Key models. Do you still have this model? I would sure like to see more photos if you do.

BH

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby EdJakl » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:53 pm

Jay Criswell wrote:Charlie,

Always thought the Kemtron mogul was way ahead of it's time. As a matter of fact I pulled one out of the storage unit today. A gift for Bob Jakl. Actually, Ed & Tom too. it needs a little work and they get to do it for their dad.

Still have the original Kemtron used for their photos and catalog. John (Irish Tracklayer) worked for Kemtron and picked up the model years ago. Built by Bruce Becthel (sic). No decals, they created stencils for the numbering/lettering.

Anyway, very nice model you have there.

Jay


Jay, the Kemtron Mogul is a good looking locomotive. A bit sticky getting it started, but with a little solder in the right places and some lubrication it should be a really nice model on the layout! Thanks! Ed

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:46 pm

Butch - it was a Scale Craft/CLW kit. I will be happy to get a few more photos. Got a cold right now, and will skip the airport today, so when I feel like an excursion I will try for some decent photos.

There is a bit more to the story - did I mention Chali Schwarm (rip) in my 1989 article? Charlie had a hand in the project, and when he died he was working on an improved wheelbase version. More later . . .

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby up148 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:21 pm

Bob, I don't think you mentioned Charlie, but did mention another fellow you purchased another equalized and sprung chassis from, years prior to the kit. The kit is when you discovered the two chassis were the same or almost the same. Believe you were going to use the original chassis (only) on a SP northern. Blew me away seeing that functioning chassis in the article photo. Had never seen one photographed like that until the Kohs 9000 came along. I remember seeing the Kohs chassis in magazine ads during construction and it just about knocked me out of my chair.

Bh

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby Jay Criswell » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:46 pm

Ed,

You have no idea how happy it makes me that your dad likes it. Without a doubt your mom and dad have to be two of the nicest people I know.

By the way, I honestly don't know if I installed the NWSL gear box, or not. If you need any parts for the loco or the gear box (motor too) just let me know. I probably have at least 50 new NWSL gear boxes and even more parts.

Jay

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:49 pm

That is a $2000 cache, even with Raoul's discount. Are they glass-filled cases?

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby Jay Criswell » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:20 pm

Bob,

Some are. Sometimes I do direct burnouts and cast them in brass. Makes getting them to fit a little easier. As you know, but some may not, there are a lot of them that don't fit worth a .......

I did buy a lot from Raoul. I also bought a lot of the ball bearing cases to retrofit the non-ball bearing.

Jay

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:24 pm

Raoul gave me a 40% discount. I hope my publicity helped him. I do like the new folks, but no discount. Raoul's boxes always fit. Not so much anymore, but if you know what you are doing they can be made to fit perfectly. I converted most of my Mod 0.5 gearboxes to ball bearings before Raoul converted. I was melting too many cases with the heat from the bronze. (not really; I think we melted three). I just machined a sleeve and inserted a flanged bearing.

Now on to the S/C Northern. I believe this lousy picture of a picture is what Butch found in the old article:

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:26 pm

I subsequently added drivers and proper UP cylinders. Do not laugh at my rods - it was my first attempt at making masters, and a farmer buddy of Harmon Monk cast me a couple sets:

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:34 pm

And finally, a shot of the more or less finished Northern. Bear in mind that this was my first excursion into semi-scratch building. I re-did the cab, firebox, domes, cylinders, tender, and other things I cannot remember. It is powered by a giant 9434 Pittman, and ran fine last time I tried it. It needs brake beams, but you know how I detest those things. I do have plastic, and that will really fill the gaps.

The tender Smith supplied, at least in final production, was the C&O Kanawha tender. Man, I shoulda kept that! Instead, I found the original cast aluminum tender and married that to a fully sprung Lobaugh truck (yes, I did the springing, and yes, once in a while these trucks need it).

The kit was closer to a MILW Northern than anything else, but it was even more freelance than the venerable All Nation Mountain. It taught me that I could build anything I really wanted. It came from my friend Milt Sorensen, who used to write for Dan Henon.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby R.K. Maroon » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:50 pm

Wow -- Nice looking, Bob. Your technique of using sunlight to illuminate a model really works on this one.

One question: Why does your FEF have a steam dome and my Lobaugh version does not?

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:18 am

Easy - mine is an FEF-1, and yours is an FEF-3. My tender and feedwater arrangement match #814 on its retirement.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby up148 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:57 am

Bob, looked at the article again this morning and you bought the 1st chassis from George Zane in 1961. The kit was purchased from ? Sorenson (forgot the 1st name).

I'm still completely blown away that CLW offer a fully equalized and sprung chassis in this early time period. Your article said it was the 1st chassis offered like this and I believe it. Really impressive.

I think you did a great job with this project and very little of the original superstructure remained unmodified.

Thanks for the photo!!!!!!!!


BH


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