And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

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And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:53 pm

Anything not imported and not cast. Obviously frames and feedwater heaters do not count against the nature of these beasts. Often called "The Black Stuff" because guys like me are always spraying it with rattle can flat black.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:07 pm

I will let this thread die, but not without a good faith attempt at it:

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The Austin Steam Train! Thanks to Henry Pearce (RIP) for all the lost wax Mike parts.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby CMorrill » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:39 pm

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Well this Kemtron kit is Domestic Brass even though not a Lobaugh. So maybe it will fit here anyway.

Charlie

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby Jay Criswell » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:05 pm

Charlie,

Always thought the Kemtron mogul was way ahead of it's time. As a matter of fact I pulled one out of the storage unit today. A gift for Bob Jakl. Actually, Ed & Tom too. it needs a little work and they get to do it for their dad.

Still have the original Kemtron used for their photos and catalog. John (Irish Tracklayer) worked for Kemtron and picked up the model years ago. Built by Bruce Becthel (sic). No decals, they created stencils for the numbering/lettering.

Anyway, very nice model you have there.

Jay

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:08 pm

Yes - nice looking. I figure Kemtron, some Scale Craft and All Nation, most Icken and others fit here. I didn't want anybody left out.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby CMorrill » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:12 pm

Thanks Jay and Bob. This Kemtron kit is a fun build. Easy to freelance into something other than Wabash if you want. I still see a brown box kit for one of these moguls at meets or on ebay on occasion.

Charlie

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby E7 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:34 pm

Charlie,

Looks GOOD to me!!!

Rich

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby CMorrill » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:41 pm

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This one is a mix of domestic brass and imported brass ---- domestic castings and labor plus imported formed sheet brass and a Max Gray tender.

Charlie

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby Jay Criswell » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:45 pm

Charlie,

First a question. Are the main rods on your Kemtron brass? If so, and if you'd like to plate them I have the poor (very poor) man's technique for doing it.

Get yourself an old tin can (I typically used to use coffee cans but they may no longer be available). Wash out the can thoroughly, and, while your at it, the parts to be plated also. Fill the can, let's say, not quite full, mix in some cream of tartar (say a couple of tablespoons), place your clean parts in the bottom of the can, bring the water to a boil. As the water boils off you'll notice the exposed part of the can may be rusting. That's because the cream of tartar is removing the plating inside the can. I usually turn the parts over a few times while all of this is going on. Periodically fish your parts out and you will notice they're now plated. You can stop once you reach the level of plating you desire.

If you already know about this, then please accept my apologizes for the post.

By the way, if your mains are already NS (white brass), I apologize for bringing this whole thing up. They just looked yellow in the photo.

By the way, as I've said in the past, your TW-8 is a real beauty.

Jay

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby CMorrill » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:01 pm

Jay,
I do not recall ever hearing about this interesting method of plating, so thank you for posting it. I want to try it sometime.

The Kemtron main rods are n.s. and they and other unpainted n.s. castings (Right-O-Way switch frogs, etc.) do have a slight yellowish cast in my lighting. The side rods are cast brass and I used my own brand of poor man's plating for them (solder).

Charlie

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:27 pm

I put my TW-8 in the imported brass area. All I did to mine was paint it and fix the short circuits. Let me see if I can find more domestic brass:

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby R.K. Maroon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:41 am

Well, I can't compete with Charlie's fantastic Kemtron steamer but I will stick with Kemtron and go diesel:

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Nothing like a little smoke from a house fire to provide a bit of weathering.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby stephen neill » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:34 am

Jim – Did your Santa Fe diesel come from Cindy Largey? I bought several Santa Fe smoke damaged engines from her on Ebay several years ago. I agree, they have a nice weathered effect. I think they came from a central(?) California collection.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby R.K. Maroon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:58 pm

Steve -- Yes, my records show that this came from eBay seller Ragtyme Station, which is Cindy Largey.

This locomotive became part of my "catch and release" program. I like to restore models, but I find that I tend to lose interest in some of them after getting them going and running them for a while. I decided a couple of years ago that it is better to find them a new home then for them to languish in a box in my closet. So I list them one on eBay and sell them. This one went to a buyer somewhere in North Illinois or Wisconsin. A year later it was on a dealer's table at the local O-scale show in Ft. Worth:

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We had our portable layout at the show and at some point a modeler came up to me with this model in his hand asking if he could run it. I wasn't sure I should admit that I used to own it (and had restored it), but fortunately it ran well, so I fessed up. The modeler was pleased and bought it. I saw him again at this year's show. He told me he stripped and repainted the model for a different railroad, but was otherwise very happy with it. So the smoke-weathered paint is just a memory now.

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Re: And Domestic Brass - see my Lobaugh thread

Postby bob turner » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:47 pm

Well I like the smoky paint job. It shows up on the big Dell computer, which is on so I can further bother you with photos in my three new threads.

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