Monday Mountain thread

[Jay Criswell]

Bob T,

Yeah, but I wasn't able to make any real determination but it looks like a 10 to me.

Jay

[Seaboard Air Line Fan]

I did the search on 1744, here's a couple of photos:

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SP 1744a.jpg (19.18 KiB) Viewed 7412 times

BobD

[Seaboard Air Line Fan]

Between 25-30 years ago, while visiting my then GF who ended up being my wife, I happened upon a RR museum in McCoomb MS and took these photos:

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Not sure which RR this belong to but another interesting tender (although not quite a Monday Mountain qualifier)

BobD

[Jay Criswell]

BobT,

My first (or twentieth) thought was, that' has to be a 12. Looks way too long for a 9 or 10 but the angles are deceiving. Nothing is truly a right angels. The first photo looks like a 10 and the second looks much longer, like a 12. Obviously, there's only one tender?? I would go with the 10. A 10 has an o/a length of around 38' (coupler to buffer plate). A 12 is around 41'. The M-6 is around 38'. Using these rough dimensions I let the reader make their own determination.

BobD,

SP all the way (T&NO to be a little more specific). S-14 class built in 1924. The tender is often times called a sausage tender. BobT has a few. Westside had one behind their S-10 model.

Jay

[bob turner]

You mean the one on 1744, or the Max import for the LW Mike?

It might be time to get a broadside of each. Maybe Arnold Menke can help. He is always willing to share thoughts on tenders.

So hopefully that Mississippi S-14 survived? It looked pretty bad back then, with freight car trucks under the tender.

[bob turner]

[bob turner]

Lobaugh made them in 1939, and Stevenson Preservation Models makes them now.

[rogruth]

Lobaugh made them in 1939, and Stevenson Preservation Models makes them now.

Does this mean that there has been little change or improvement in O scale models since 1939?

[CMorrill]

Another indicator that it is a SP s-13 or s-14 is the raised right side running board. This allowed the power reverse to be mounted under the running board. Nearly all other SP 0-6-0 classes had the power reverse (if used) mounted on top of the running board.

Charlie

[Jay Criswell]

Yep, Charlie is correct.

That's why the Lobaugh is really only correct for the later 0-6-0s. Most people don't pick up on it.

Jay

[J. S. Bach]

Lobaugh made them in 1939, and Stevenson Preservation Models makes them now.

Does this mean that there has been little change or improvement in O scale models since 1939?

That is the funniest thing that I have read on MTJ in long while!!!! Thanks for the lift.

[bob turner]

I checked with Arnold Menke. He is the all time expert on SP tenders.

The 1744 tender is from the early F-1 series 2-10-2s. It is a 100-C-1, and has an oil tank that was cut down. Other than some of the EPSW tenders that look like a cross between a covered wagon and a Vanderbilt, these have to be the most ungainly - the ugliest tenders SP ever had.

Arnold writes tender appendices for all the Church books, and some of the Dunscomb books. The latest book is 2-10-2 and 4-10-2, and if you are an SP nut, you need this one. I have it, and every other book Church or Dunscomb ever did. I just forgot about that early 2-10-2.

[rogruth]

Dave,
You think I will get an answer?
I might now that I asked.
Ya gotta remember I really like ALL parts of MTJ.

[J. S. Bach]

Dave,
Ya gotta remember I really like ALL parts of MTJ.

So do I, so do I.

[bob turner]

A necessary correction: I gave Arnold a link to here, and he says to make sure you know that the short oil tank was initially constructed this way, not "cut down".

Arnold is a valued asset for SP steam fans.