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Wonderful!

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:43 pm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-LIONEL ... 3059577796

I don't know when I've seen one of these so badly rusted before. Scratched, nicked and dinged. Rear truck and drawbar gone. Tender, of course, probably listed separately for more PROFIT!
You like the wire bridging the back to guide the (non-existent) drawbar? Classy!
"Has wear and tear and paint missing and a little rust here and there."
No place does it say it even runs.
Not worth the cost of shipping.
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby healey36 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:55 pm

Interesting. At some point you have to believe this isn't ignorance, it's not a sense of fair value, it's just predatory.

Sarge and I picked up a 2034 at an antique mall in Fayetteville, Pa. on a lark last year...figured for $16 a home could be found for it:

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Found a 6466T tender for it as well (correct style, but wrong number)...all in we invested $23. It'll be going to some kid in the family at some point, along with an ad hoc set. I should replace those drive-rods, though...they are pretty rough.

Didn't know anything about the 2034...turns out it's one of, if not the nicest of the Scout-style locos. One year only - 1953. Cleaned it up, a bit of lubricant, runs like a champ. You can't beat postwar.

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:07 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:I don't know when I've seen one of these so badly rusted before.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-027-Li ... Sw97hew1sF
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby healey36 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:28 pm

Free shipping...yippee!!!

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby ScaleCraft » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:39 pm

Knew it was one year only. Made no difference with condition. If you DO replace the rods, send me the old ones. I use them to mount couplers on the nose of 675's, and I used my last one.
I have some Scout shells left over from scrapping, I think.
The 2034 went to a metal motor block, but as rusty as that example is, don't think it runs.
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby G3750 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:24 pm

They forgot to put the word "rare" in the listing. :lol:

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby ScaleCraft » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:32 pm

G3750 wrote:They forgot to put the word "rare" in the listing. :lol:

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When there are no takers, and they re-list it, I am certain "rare" will show up in the description.
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby G3750 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:43 am

ScaleCraft wrote:
G3750 wrote:They forgot to put the word "rare" in the listing. :lol:

George

When there are no takers, and they re-list it, I am certain "rare" will show up in the description.


Awesome!!!! That's when I'm bidding. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby v8vega » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:01 am

I considered 2-4-2's a bargain back when I was buying and have a bunch of them, all except one with the metal motor. Some I paid as little as $10 in fair condition.

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby Roy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:22 pm

healey36 wrote:Didn't know anything about the 2034...turns out it's one of, if not the nicest of the Scout-style locos.

Agreed. The Scout line ran from 1948 through 1952. I think it's interesting that Lionel tried a plastic-shelled steamer for the Scout engine in 1948, but dropped it the next year. Starting in 1949, all Scout engines used this type of die-cast shell. The actual Scout engines had a longitudinal slot in the top of the boiler, for the Scout reverse lever. The regular line 2034 and subsequent 1130 did not have a slot, as they had a three-position reverse with the lockout lever pointing down. They also had the regular type steel plate motor. This motor was later used in the 1615 and 1625 0-4-0 switchers.

The 2034 ran only in 1952. In 1953 and 1954, Lionel made this same style boiler shell in plastic for the first time, as the 1130. The 1130 had weights, to give it better pulling power than the 1948 plastic Scout engine. No 2-4-2 engines were made in 1955 or 1956.

Another engine I like to use for gifts, is the uncataloged Scout 1101. They're very easy to come by. They're the same as the 1655, but without the handrails and the side rods. Those can be easily added. Nice heavy shells, high-quality motors and three-position e-units.

You can also recycle Scout tenders by turning the coupler truck 180 degrees, and putting on a standard coupler baseplate. You can do the same with Marx tenders, since they have the same truck wheelbase.
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby chuck » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:47 pm

Nice bathmat it's sitting on. I wonder if that's for sale?
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby ScaleCraft » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:47 pm

If you've never had to work on one of those plastic clamshell Scout motors, consider yourself fortunate.

POS is too nice a term to describe them.

When the plastic starts breaking and crumbling.....and you end up with 1/2 of it JB Weld, you'll know.
Rotating brush holders, moveable pole piece in the field...yeah stellar design.
All the fore-aft fiber lever did was hold the pole piece down.

I may still have one in my junk box.
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Re: Wonderful!

Postby healey36 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:49 pm

Dammit, I can't type! You're right, Roy, 2034 was only made in 1952. But Lionel went on to make a bunch of low-end Columbia-type locos (not called Scouts) well into the 1960s. I have a set around here that was offered by Quaker Oats in the mid-1960s, featured a plastic 242:

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$11.95 and a couple of box-tops seems like a deal, especially considering my first N-scale set (AHM) from the late 1960s easily cost more than twice that.

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby Roy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:25 pm

Cool ad. I think the 1960s Libby's set had the Southern Pacific 1130T tender. Lots of colorful cars made, at that time. As for N gauge, I got an Aurora Postage Stamp set for Xmas, back around 1967.

This reminds me how my grandmother clipped the ad for the Campbell's soup HO set for me. I kept it, and later got one.

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Re: Wonderful!

Postby Roy » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:56 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:If you've never had to work on one of those plastic clamshell Scout motors, consider yourself fortunate.

POS is too nice a term to describe them.

When the plastic starts breaking and crumbling.....and you end up with 1/2 of it JB Weld, you'll know.
Rotating brush holders, moveable pole piece in the field...yeah stellar design.
All the fore-aft fiber lever did was hold the pole piece down.

What was Lionel thinking? One drop, and it's dead. And, it was younger kids, who got these. Their parents would have gotten better quality for less money, buying Marx. Many of the later Scout-type motors were made without reverse. At least, there was no slot in the boiler top.

I credit MPC with not bringing back those Bakelite Scout motors. They got a lot of mileage out of the 2034 mechanism. The first Lionel set I bought had one, with a hand reverse. Unfortunately, many 2034-motored engines came with Lionel's two-position e-unit. These units were very fast-acting, which was fine when they were used to activate Lionel HO onboard horns and whistles. As a reverse unit, they slammed into reverse with the slightest break in track current. I refuse to run them. I've changed my Milwaukee Special engine to a three-position e-unit.
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