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 Post subject: Re: The "Super 700E" Project
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:41 am 
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jlong wrote:
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OK, I got the electronics and numbering messed up. Didn't Williams also offer a pilot coupler, if you bought two Hudsons at York?


I had a williams full scale hudson that was supposed to come with a pilot coupler but it was missing from the packaging. I should have kept that locomotive, but at the time I had it, it was too big for my 4 by 8 foot layout that I had before my present one. It didn't like the 0-42 curves.

I remember it being EXTREMELY heavy. It was probably around 10 pounds or more.


You'll like the 1-700E. It does O42 curves just fine.



Yeah that engine is on my hit list. I bet it runs like a swiss watch too. :)

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 Post subject: Re: The "Super 700E" Project
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:57 am 
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Berk765 wrote:
I had a williams full scale hudson that...didn't like the 0-42 curves...
What snagged on the curves?


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 Post subject: Re: The "Super 700E" Project
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:21 am 
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A Lionel Hudson that I keep going back to as a personal favorite is the J3a from 2002 as part of the 6-31007 "50th Anniversary" passenger set. Being a Flyer guy, I have a weakness for the NYC J3a. Nicely done Boxpok drivers. Lionel (and their Koreans) caught the look of the J3a very well. The sounds are dated but not bad and it has a reasonable execution of Odyssey I mated to a large quality Pittman motor. The puffer smoke unit is a debit. I swapped in a shorter IR draw bar on the tender, so the cab-tender spacing is visually acceptable.

See page 16 in,

http://www.lionel.com/Products/Catalogs ... index.html

Well, yes the passenger cars are not prototypical, but they are pretty in an understated way. Having a later set of Lionel NYC green Pullmans mated to this J3a makes a reasonable 3-rail O gauge facsimile of a mid-30's Twentieth Century.

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Bob, I remember that catalog very well. It's when Dick Maddox decided to kick some serious butt. A scale 1950 anniversary set, Pennsy K-4 set, and lift bridge. What more could a postwar head ask for??? The MTH foamers literally imploded the AOL message boards. It was that good of a catalog. I was so inspired I wrote Maddox a note asking he do pre decorated die-cast screw driver kit scale freight cars. He wrote back with a brief thank-you note. I think screwdriver kits would be fun but I doubt they'll ever materialize.

The 1-700E stands out from the crowd of modern hudsons when it comes to robustness and reliability. I've ran the piss out of mine and it only saw a screwdriver once and that was just to grease the gearbox and oil the motor shaft for the sake of knowing it was done.

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I prefer the 2001 separate sale J3a myself, since I am a big fan of Scullin Disc drivers. The first time I ever saw them was in the 18056 Hudson catalog photo and I thought they were the coolest thing ever. I can also live with the class lamps, since they aren't completely incorrect.


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PC9850 wrote:
I prefer the 2001 separate sale J3a myself, since I am a big fan of Scullin Disc drivers. The first time I ever saw them was in the 18056 Hudson catalog photo and I thought they were the coolest thing ever. I can also live with the class lamps, since they aren't completely incorrect.


Yes I remember seeing that locomotive in the catolog myself. I too like the scullin disc drivers.

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To me, the best looking modern hudson of all. Yet most controversial. Rivet counters wet their diapers all over it because the NYC never ran C&O tenders. The C&O semi vanderbilt tender is major bitchin. Last time I heard, it runs on 3 rails so WTF.

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Has Lionel used a set of Boxpok drivers on a scale NYC Hudson yet? That's the type used on the Flyer J3. I just learned that the prototype Boxpoks were hollow!


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jlong wrote:
To me, the best looking modern hudson of all. Yet most controversial. Rivet counters wet their diapers all over it because the NYC never ran C&O tenders. The C&O semi vanderbilt tender is major bitchin. Last time I heard, it runs on 3 rails so WTF.

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That is a cool looking engine. Now i know what your talking about when you say semi vanderbuilt tender.

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jlong wrote:
To me, the best looking modern hudson of all. Yet most controversial. Rivet counters wet their diapers all over it because the NYC never ran C&O tenders. The C&O semi vanderbilt tender is major bitchin. Last time I heard, it runs on 3 rails so WTF.


I liked the Vandy tender as well, although with the modern font 5344 lettering, Scullin drivers, and wireless tether this thing was practically begging for the separate sale PT tender it should have had from the get-go. And so began the project on page 1 of this thread :wink:

As for which Hudson was most controversial, I might have to give that honor to the Commodore Vanderbilt. The first one caused consternation because the gray was too light, then they made a weathered one that wasn't accepted as a solution, then they made the proper dark gray one but gave it crap 773 drivers, then finally just went Skittles mode and made blue, red, and bad LSD trip :lol:

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:shock: What the hell???? :shock:

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Berk765 wrote:
:shock: What the hell???? :shock:


That's a Neil Young panty wagon. It needs purple glow lights under the skirts.

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Roy wrote:
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I had a williams full scale hudson that...didn't like the 0-42 curves...
What snagged on the curves?


It just didn't like them at all. I noticed that it had smaller flanges on it's drivers than my other o gauge locomotives.

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jlong wrote:
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:shock: What the hell???? :shock:


That's a Neil Young panty wagon. It needs purple glow lights under the skirts.



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jlong wrote:
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:shock: What the hell???? :shock:


That's a Neil Young panty wagon. It needs purple glow lights under the skirts.


I don't like the Commodore Vanderbilt but I might like what John suggests. :wink: :wink: :wink: :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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