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Re: Figure painting

Postby rogruth » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:21 pm

Now we know another of Sarges jobs.
I will keep my eyes open for him. :D
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Re: Figure painting

Postby Nev » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:12 am

I'm watching I have a few myself to paint.
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Re: Figure painting

Postby healey36 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:26 am

rogruth wrote:Now we know another of Sarges jobs.
I will keep my eyes open for him. :D

Sarge gave me some tips on how to solder a lead-composite figure using dialed-back power on the iron. It worked well...better than the super-glue I'd been using.

Back to the twenties in a couple days...time to stoke the fire.

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Re: Figure painting

Postby Steamfan77 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:10 pm

Healey,

I think you did a great job on the figures, looking forward to seeing more.

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Re: Figure painting

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:27 pm

healey36 wrote:... a few pic's from the 2015 MFCA (Miniature Figure Collectors of America). These are 54mm, so a man stands 2-1/2 inches tall:

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I'm pretty sure they did not use the "dip" method, lol...
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Re: Figure painting

Postby sarge » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:39 pm

I just heard about this being discussed. Soldering white metal is a pretty standard skill in UK railway modelling (white metal castings abound in kits; more common than the American lost-wax brass castings norm) and for military figure modelling.

It's very straightforward once you get past the notion that (unlike soldering brass) screw-ups are melt-downs. For those who want to try your hand at it, my irons are standard pencil irons plugged into a Variac. Adjustable temp irons ("soldering stations") are available new. A box with a dimmer switch in it works, though the adjustment is a bit coarse. You play and practice with scrap until you get a feel and you know what settings work.

I use a liquid flux I got from the UK for whitemetal soldering. Diluted phosphoric acid works fine.

Solder comes in various temps but isn't very commonly used in the States so not that easy to find as solder, but "Cerro-bend" alloy is. Cerro-bend makes an outstanding 70C/158F melting point white-metal solder. I have a hexagonal pour of Cerro-bend that will outlast me and I do a lot of this both in railway modelling and repairing and modifying military figures.

I intend to teach Healey how to do this; in return he can paint some figures for me. :D

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Re: Figure painting

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:49 pm

sarge wrote:Cerro-bend makes an outstanding 70C/158F melting point white-metal solder.


It's also ~10% Cadmium. I'll get you some more gloves.
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Re: Figure painting

Postby sarge » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:16 pm

Most decent low-temp solders do, often with lead as well.

Soldering is a process to be respected; hot irons dripping with molten metals, torches, acids for fluxes, lead and cadmium still components of the more useful solders...

I'll take the gloves; in purple again, please.

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Re: Figure painting

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:08 pm

sarge wrote:I'll take the gloves; in purple again, please.


Will do. Purple if possible. Lead may make the uninformed run about wringing their hands, but there are some many far worse things to be concerned about that get lost in the noise.

When I cleared one of my labs for renovations a few years back, the environmental guy was so agitated that he was literally hopping back and forth from foot to foot - was going to send him to the men's room. "We found traces of lead and mercury!!!!!!" My response: "I hope so. I have 40 tons of lead....... Oh, by the way, have you found the thorium yet?" and walked away.......
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Re: Figure painting

Postby sarge » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:21 pm

Ah, mercury...

I always (wrongly according to the health and safety wombles) held it wasn't the pure mercury but the crap that grows in mercury that one should be conscious of, but I digress...

Idle conversation until Healey paints that figure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Figure painting

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:58 pm

sarge wrote:Ah, mercury...

I always (wrongly according to the health and safety wombles) held it wasn't the pure mercury but the crap that grows in mercury that one should be conscious of, but I digress...


Far worse are organo-mercury compounds.......

Idle conversation until Healey paints that figure. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Indeed. Then again, I'm taking a break from painting detail parts. It get tedious and waiting for the paint to dry simply lacks real entertainment value.
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Re: Figure painting

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:28 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
sarge wrote:Ah, mercury...

I always (wrongly according to the health and safety wombles) held it wasn't the pure mercury but the crap that grows in mercury that one should be conscious of, but I digress...


Far worse are organo-mercury compounds.......

Idle conversation until Healey paints that figure. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Indeed. Then again, I'm taking a break from painting detail parts. It get tedious and waiting for the paint to dry simply lacks real entertainment value.

Maybe if you intently watch it dry, you'll drive more entertainment value from it? Really put your back into it. :mrgreen:

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Re: Figure painting

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:45 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:It get tedious and waiting for the paint to dry simply lacks real entertainment value.

Maybe if you intently watch it dry, you'll drive more entertainment value from it? Really put your back into it. :mrgreen:


Ok, on that note, and since I really don't want to deprive you of this level of entertainment, come on by and we can watch it together, and then we can go down to the corner and watch the lights turn, or better yet, we can go up on the roof and watch the stars burn out until the heat death of the universe arrives.

Oh, what fun!

Than again, maybe it's time to dig out that DIY colonoscopy kit and give that a good testing!
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Re: Figure painting

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:08 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:It get tedious and waiting for the paint to dry simply lacks real entertainment value.

Maybe if you intently watch it dry, you'll drive more entertainment value from it? Really put your back into it. :mrgreen:


Ok, on that note, and since I really don't want to deprive you of this level of entertainment, come on by and we can watch it together, and then we can go down to the corner and watch the lights turn, or better yet, we can go up on the roof and watch the stars burn out until the heat death of the universe arrives.

Oh, what fun!

Than again, maybe it's time to dig out that DIY colonoscopy kit and give that a good testing!

Now, that was a low-blow.

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Re: Figure painting

Postby healey36 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:16 pm

Dammit, I just had a colonoscopy...what's the point of being on here if folks don't share that there's a kit available?

(and yes, the downstairs bathroom has been repainted since the ordeal...)


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