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4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:17 pm
by ScaleCraft
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Pretty close. Can't find the smokebox front, but another is en-route. One screw, two small sheet metal screws stuck horizontally under cab back.
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Lead boiler. Frame extended 1/2" at rear. Diamond plate came off running boards, and the extensions at smokebox were Walther's Goo attached. Gonna fix that.
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What appears to be an NW2 cab back. Go figure. Good way to hide the motor, I guess.
Was a UP engine. Pile of parts when I got it.
Have a tender...needs a ladder on the rear then paint.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:06 pm
by J. S. Bach
Looking good.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:05 am
by Rufus T. Firefly
ScaleCraft wrote:What appears to be an NW2 cab back. Go figure. Good way to hide the motor, I guess.


Creative thing to do - might make for an all weather cab, :wink: :wink:

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:06 pm
by ScaleCraft
Still trying to figure out lead boiler.

Thinking Walthers Polydrive, since a lot of that earlier Walthers stuff was some sort of lead alloy.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:41 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
ScaleCraft wrote:Still trying to figure out lead boiler.

Thinking Walthers Polydrive, since a lot of that earlier Walthers stuff was some sort of lead alloy.


I was wondering about that as well - don't think I've ever seen a V/GMC/AN one in lead or alloy.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:44 pm
by ScaleCraft
or with that cab..or 1/2" longer than the chassis. Odd for sure.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:48 pm
by bob turner
Might check "carey Locomotive Works" - they did some heavy, low melting point castings for the All Nation model. Impressive that they used lagging clamps.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:39 pm
by ScaleCraft
Yeah, saw the lagging clamps. Or as former MR editor Terry Thompson wrote when reviewing a plastic shelled Half Zero steam loco "the manufacturer left the casting sprues in the shell" or something like that.

Piping, conduits....somebody spent some time.
The frame extension is interesting....plate on the side of the tailstock block to keep it out, then gusset plates both sides with probably NBW castings drilled through and maybe soldered.

The bottom cover is hogged way out, for a bigger gearbox or even a NWSL box, and totally unusable for mounting the Varney gear bridge.
I have the axle and gear. I ought to get a photo and throw it up...maybe somebody needs it.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:19 pm
by J. S. Bach
ScaleCraft wrote:Image

I saw this photo and was reminded of one that I took of friend's (now mine through a trade) CLW H-10
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Hmmm, I see that I used track! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:34 pm
by ScaleCraft
I coulda carried it downstairs and put in on three rail for the photo. Or grabbed an old .172 double crossover, gone outside, and taken a photo (have a couple).

But:

Working on it out in my shop, I put the white board behind it so you wouldn't be confused by all the radio/battery #1 gauge locos.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:42 pm
by ScaleCraft
bob turner wrote:Might check "carey Locomotive Works" - they did some heavy, low melting point castings for the All Nation model. Impressive that they used lagging clamps.

Possible...Cary I am familiar with from Half 0. I called Bowser just now, guy who answered been there 25 years, never heard of Cary doing 0....but this was probably 50 or more years ago.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:26 pm
by ScaleCraft
Without a smokebox front, dangling from my fish scale, 5.5 pounds.

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:58 pm
by R.K. Maroon
Dave and I were discussing the boiler on his Ten-Wheeler, and he mentioned a company called Cary that made so HO castings at one time. I told him that I had some All Nation documentation somewhere in my files that described a Cary boiler for one of their line of steam locomotives. Dave asked me to dig it out and after a bit of searching I found it. Note the teasing with the "C Boiler" label in the main instructions and the use of the term Cary in a subassembly instruction.

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This may not be the only documentation I have on the Cary boiler. If I find more I will post it up.

Jim

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:05 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
R.K. Maroon wrote:............some All Nation documentation somewhere in my files that described a Cary boiler for one of their line of steam locomotives.


Should be with the 2-6-2.......

Re: 4-6-0 with Varney/GMC/A-N chassis

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by ScaleCraft
except.
Shows the parts for running boards (and instructions to install), but mine are cast integral.