Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

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Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Carey Williams » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 pm

Hello all ... flipping through a February 1935 Model Craftsman , a photo of the new "first" streamlined steam engine , the Commodore Vanderbilt aside the replica DeWitt Clinton jumps out at me ... so thought I'd "re-shoot" the image in O scale .
DeWitt Clinton an Alexander kit from the early 50's and a scratch built Commodore built atop a Lionel 700E chassis ..believed also built in the 50's.

Here is a link to learn all about the real NYC streamlined steamers
https://nycshs.files.wordpress.com/2014 ... 1981q3.pdf

Cheers Carey

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby ScaleCraft » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:40 pm

Sure is a lot of difference between prototype and model of the Commodore, isn't there?

Must be the prototype is wrong.
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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby 2railjon » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:34 pm

Awesome! :D
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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby E7 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:49 am

ScaleCraft wrote:Sure is a lot of difference between prototype and model of the Commodore, isn't there?

Must be the prototype is wrong.


That's what I was thinking! Those 12" to the foot guys really hosed that one! :lol:

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Robert » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:08 am

A very interesting and imaginative presentation Carey...very well done.

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby De Bruin » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:45 pm

Help me out, didn't the NYC or Big Four have a similar "bathtub" shrouded Pacific used on the shop-built Mercury?
BTW Carey that is one fascinating model, I have weakness for shrouded steam and that is the Bomb!
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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby aterry11 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:03 pm

Thanks for posting the link above very informative read.
Debruin the info you seek is in the link above several pages down. Page 20. I too am interested in streamlined engines as they mostly pulled passenger trains.

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Carey Williams » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:05 am

Hello all ..thank you for your kind words ....I'm very fortunate to have the Commodore ......Marklin was the only mass manufacturer of the Commodore back in the day ... 1936 /7 .......no clue way no one else jumped on the band wagon ....of course Marklin did not sell very many of them either ... ..perhaps most folks like their steamers filled with pipes and pumps etc ...


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this is a reproduction of the O scale Marklin model ( 3 rail O gauge)


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this is an original Marklin in 1 gauge ...... buying one of these will take a big bite out your savings account.

Cheers Carey

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby bob turner » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:36 pm

No clue? Maybe the upside down bathtub motif did not sell well back then.

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:38 pm

bob turner wrote:No clue? Maybe the upside down bathtub motif did not sell well back then.


Yup. Probably didn't hold much water either.
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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Erik C Lindgren » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:16 pm

Very beautiful Rufus

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Re: Past and Present (December 14th 1934)

Postby Carey Williams » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:33 pm

Hello all

Ok so upside down bathtubs did not fly in the scale world (vintage) .....but they sure sold like wild fire in the tinplate world ... Marx must have sold a million or two of them ..Lionel a distant second with only a few hundred thousand + - ...

not to offend the more sensitive scale viewers no photos will be posted ...but for the brave just put "marx commodore vanderbilt" in your search bar..and click on images ... ..viewer discretion advised

Cheers Carey


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