Hudson on Ebay

[stephen neill]

I usually would not do this, but I can't resist.

"NOBODY else sees the carp work on the tender? Really?"

That is because the carp was swimming too fast.

So its not a Hudson Hudson after all. Has anyone told the Major Major?

Steve

[bob turner]

Sometimes it is so hard to resist . . . I successfully resisted a comment on a phrase in an NK post about how something "speaks eons . . ." There probably is an approved phrase like that, but I have never seen it before. I think Dave just mis-spelled his word.

Mangled French can be a problem for me. "Wa-la" is usually enough for me to go to the next post with a queasy feeling. And I do not speak or write French.

I would love to know the provenance of this Hudson. It does not look like any model Hudson I have previously seen. Perhaps it is built-up brass?

[Arthur P. Bloom]

Mr. Turner:

"There probably is an approved phrase like that..."

The correct cliche is "It speaks volumes." It took me a few moments to figure out what was said, and what you wondered it meant.

Malapropisms are legion on that and other fora. Here are a few that I have collected over the years:

1. He wears Patton leather shoes. (Wonder what the General would have thought of him?)

2. No two questions about it.

3. A horse with a different collar.

4. The greasy wheel gets the oil.

..."eck cetera"

[ScaleCraft]

Sometimes it is so hard to resist . . . I successfully resisted a comment on a phrase in an NK post about how something "speaks eons . . ." There probably is an approved phrase like that, but I have never seen it before. I think Dave just mis-spelled his word.

Mangled French can be a problem for me. "Wa-la" is usually enough for me to go to the next post with a queasy feeling. And I do not speak or write French.

I would love to know the provenance of this Hudson. It does not look like any model Hudson I have previously seen. Perhaps it is built-up brass?

No, I didn't...that gets around any forum auto-censor software. Spin the two centre letters around and you'll figure it out.
Voila!

[Arthur P. Bloom]

"speaks enos" ???

[ScaleCraft]

and nobody has yet seen the tender side issue. Even looks like they ground the rivets off the side when forming the bondo.

[Wolf]

I'd have lined up the loco/tender shot that I just posted on Bob's Pacific thread from the other side
for a better comparison, but my tender shows how the one on eBay started out prior to the Bondo makeover!

[ScaleCraft]

There ya go.
Oh, and what's broken on your tender truck?

[ScaleCraft]

http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/hudson/index.html
Shows the tender, which is effectively a Lionel knock-off, with one pickup roller in the middle of the tender floor, Lionel type grabs, and a big raised area on one side of the floor stating origin:
Made by Hudson Products Corp, Attleboro Mass.
And the locos are, as the box photo shows, less feedwater heater, so the loco in the evilbait ad is NOT, and neither is the tender.

[ScaleCraft]

http://www.dakotapaul.com/items/showitem.asp?iid=3171

Good photos of an alleged Hudson Products that sold, except it says "Lionel" under the tender.
Making it worth a whole lot more...but that plug in the front wall of the tender...and the metal brushplate...hmm.

[Wolf]

There ya go.
Oh, and what's broken on your tender truck?

To paraphrase an English king...For the want of a screw, the spacer was lost.
For the want of a spacer, the truck was rendered useless! I know, don't give up my day job!

Actually, I'm just missing one of the two screws and associated spacer between the bolster and the sideframe.
I will have to go junkbox-diving to see if I can find something that will work. At least I still have a "sample" to go by!
Find a workable screw and spacer, and viola! Back in business!

[ScaleCraft]

so...which NYC Hudson models had the feedwater heater on top of the smokebox (sunk in for east coast clearances?)?

SC, yes. Lionel, Williams, Hudson Products, no.
Mi-Loco, Mini Scale, CT&D?

That's not to say there were not several version from all these companies some with some without?

[ScaleCraft]

Kohs, yes.

[ScaleCraft]

That loco is brass, methinks. Look at the ashpan (and the hole). Look at the solder glob along the edge. You can see the wavy bottom of the smokebox up through the SPRUNG chassis.

Now....just trying to figure it out...isn't that one of those soldered together brass KTM or US Hobbies gearboxes on #2 driver axle?

[rrjjf]

Scalecraft,

I noticed that brass fabricated gearbox. It sure looks like the gearbox that was used on Max Gray imports before US Hobbies took over the KTM production and introduced their diecast gearbox. Theest of the model is still a question. Not being a big NYC Hudson fan over the years I really cannot say. This loco could be a hodgepodge of Hudson parts someone put together. I only own one Hudson, a prewar Scalecraft model that I married to a Williams NYC 6 wheel tender.

Joe