Passenger Cars 2021

[ScaleCraft]

Neat car Dave, JC Models?

No idea. I have a UP diner, also cardstock, couple of others. With the interiors, I just tell folks they're Fishers.

[ScaleCraft]

Built-up, multiple layer cardstock. I thought JC was single layer embossed?

[bob turner]

Here is another Walthers car:

[R.K. Maroon]

I have become a big fan of Walthers heavyweights. There are other H/W kit cars of course -- All Nation and American Standard come to mind as major players -- but I don't believe anybody came close to Walthers in terms of number of car offerings and models sold. As with many older models, many Walthers heavyweights found on the used market are, shall we say, lacking. However, when well built, well finished, and well taken care of, I find them to be great -- a real testament to the art of craftsman modeling.

I have two nice consists made up mostly of these cars, and consider myself lucky to have found them. One is New Haven and the other GM&O. I believe I have photos of the individual cars, but I haven't found them yet. In the meantime, here is a shot of the GM&O string in service:



I bought this set from a modeler in Alabama, who told me that he bought it from Bob Smith of CLW. The seller did not know who built or painted the set. The CLW E7 is well-built and a good runner, so it may be a factory build, if you will.

Car photos when I get them
Jim

[bob turner]

I love these paint jobs you and Carey come up with. I am a fan of the GMO, but not familiar with this gorgeous scheme. I love the red and maroon, but like this better!

[R.K. Maroon]

I found the photos of the GM&O set. Here is the RPO:



Note that the modeler was diligent enough to include the window bars on this RPO. They did this by gluing brass rod to a thick piece of clear plastic. Sadly, the plastic has warped (a common bugaboo of old passenger cars for sure, as many hear certainly must know). I don't recall if there is an easy way to repair this. I know some people would lose sleep over this, but I generally model for the "consist at speed", and as such am generally unwilling to spend a large amount of time fixing low-level flaws, even obvious ones.

Jim

[R.K. Maroon]

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[ScaleCraft]

I will tell you from experience the old windows were what I think was Acetate, and shrinks. Warps. Badly.
Enough that a cardstock side is effectively destroyed, with window mullions and sides between windows pulled down, buckled out.
I know how to fix it (done several) but lots of time.

[bob turner]

Stunning! What I thought was chocolate brown really is maroon.

[E7]

I am a fan of the GMO, but not familiar with this gorgeous scheme. I love the red and maroon, but like this better!

If you want to see a classic GM&O E7 rent a copy of "In The Heat of the Night". In the first scene, it pulls up to deposit one Virgil Tibbs, aka Sidney Poitier to help police chief Bill Gillespie, aka Rod Stieger solve a murder. Good film.

You mention you like E7's more tham E8's. The only real difference is 2 low profile winterization hatches, and number boards formed to the shape of the body, and 225 or so more horses. Some roads "junked" them up with a lot of other stuff.

Rich

[De Bruin]

Built-up, multiple layer cardstock. I thought JC was single layer embossed?

It is but someone (perhaps Ed Bommer or maybe Sarge) advised me sometime ago that the secret to the JC models card stock cars was to custom cut liners for them and dope them on in multiple layers, built up until you had a really good thick side, quite hard and inflexible. But yeah my experience old acetate is often unstable and way too heat reactive too. All of my clubs old heavyweights have deformed window glazing from the decades of heat and aging.

[ScaleCraft]

When you have an old cardstock passenger car with acetate windows glued in WELL, and it goes off.....you end up with a 1/4" to 3/8" bow downwards along the top edge of the sides. And the mullions buckled out.

Most folks throw at least the sides away.

But.....there are things you can do, if for no other reason than to prove you can do it.

[Joseph Frank1]

That's the point. all our old photos are either purged or locked in Photobucket. All of mine are repeats except for the U50 and Maroon's D&H.
This one is All Nation, with aluminum embossed sides. The embossing is superb, but somehow I like the Walthers steel better.



Hi Joe.
My motivation here posting photos is similar to my motivation when Dan Henon had his stroke - I realized that I enjoyed others' articles, but that I had never contributed - so that's when I started to write. Joe was the editor of OSN after Dan's stroke, and kept it alive during "fraught" times.

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Hello again Bob.

That's a very nice set of O Scale Passenger Cars you showed !!! I have long seen the collection of your beautiful Locomotives you built or salvaged (overhauled) from near scrap yard deaths ! I do have some O Scale RR stuff I may post here - stuff I built or scratch built or kit-modified. If-when I can get photo "address URL's for them !

Here is an MU Control trailer car I created back around 1990 ( a much modified very old Walthers coach car) for use running with my PRR Gas Electrtic Car



Here is its powered mate - PRR Gas Electric car I built back in 1990 - it was waiting for a crew with jacks to re-rail the errant wheelset at rear truck of unit (heh) --


Regards - Joe F

Regards !! - Joe F

[De Bruin]

Very nice pair there Joe, like that headlight sconce on the cab end of the trailer too, very MP-54ish. I noticed behind your gas electric is what appears to be an EL car, maybe a resin car body? Q-car?

[E7]

Here is its powered mate - PRR Gas Electric car I built back in 1990 - it was waiting for a crew with jacks to re-rail the errant wheelset at rear truck of unit (heh) -- Regards - Joe F

Looks like a classic case of "Turner syndrome"