Union Pacific vol 2

[ScaleCraft]

This one is Exacta. It probably needs some windshield work. Maybe next year . . .

Looks good to me....I wouldn't mess with it, but that's just me.

Rich

Rich- I responded to your message via e-mail. Must not have worked. SCD

[E7]

Dave, I can't open Yahoo Mail right at the moment......if your message isn't there when I can get in, I'll try something else!

Take care,
Rich

[bob turner]

At the risk of thread drift, here is what I think a good EMD windshield looks like. It does have a slightly heavy center post, but that is easily taken care of with my trusty carbide bit.

[bob turner]

All of these windshields need a little work - the easiest to fix is the Great Northern on the left. I did not cut the two on the right - they came to me from Milt Sorenson of Idaho. He was involved with Exacta in the olden days.

[R.K. Maroon]

Nice line-up of E-units, Bob -- An iconic look for sure.

The first UP locomotive to wander in the door here is this U50 doorstop, shown with the auxiliary tender that came with it:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4x6uohk864qrljv87wz2f/U50-01.JPG?rlkey=btz9hvfki6505nd0y1mz7rbb0

The tender is a Scale-Craft. I sold it separately not long after it arrived. I had no use for it in the Armour Yellow scheme, and there was no doubt somebody would buy it on eBay for more than it was otherwise worth to me. No regrets.

I thought when this U50 arrived that it was a Penn-Erie, but Pene-Erie castings are aluminum and this one is white-metal. That makes it an LWS version, which did a run of these in white metal long after the very small Penn-Erie run of aluminum versions. Bob calls them pewter, and they may be, but pewter by definition has a lot of tin and lead in it with antimony and other metals. I am not sure about the tin or antimony, but given its weight, the color of the bare metal inside the shell, and wall thickness, I would definitely bet it has a lot of lead. Pewter is not a bad short-hand though. It sure sounds better than "lead-alloy".

Note the outside third rail pickups. I felt a disturbance in the Force upon first looking at it.

Jim

[bob turner]

I thought you had one in aluminum?
Note the trucks - A/N NW2?

[steamaheadstephen59]

I like the Exacta E7 and the paint Bob on both. I have a U50 again its not a door stop, but Overland, it came to me by a friend In Aussi he obtained it on the Bay after being rescued by someone from a metal scrap bine.I cant believe Overland did that, still needs work to straiten it out.

[bob turner]

I just realized the nose on the right is All Nation! The Exacta UP is at the top of this page.

[bob turner]

A Fetters Challenger just sold for almost $900 on eBay yesterday. It had center rollers, incorrect four wheel tender trucks, and no indication at all that the drivers were insulated. Jim and I were looking at it - I opined that $200 would be tops, and that a truly interested Lobaugh collector who did not have an early Challenger might go to $300, gambling on the insulation.

It looked well built other than the above - but the stunning thing was the price! I find myself wondering if the IMP Challenger offered at four grand had any impact on the bidding. My impression has been that a good early Lobaugh Challenger would bring under $500, and the later Jabelmann version, well built without ripples in the tender sides, would be under a grand.

Times are changing for we doorstop collectors.

[steamaheadstephen59]

I had a bid on the Lobaugh Challenger, and it was around what Bob suggested. The question is does the purchaser plan to run the model or did they perceive rising value and collect ability and have no intention of running it. The truth is that if you plan to run it, two rail or three rail, at that price you could have had a Sunset brass model.

[R.K. Maroon]

I thought you had one in aluminum?
Note the trucks - A/N NW2?

Bob is responding to the white-metal U50 posted above. Here is a photo of the locomotive without the Scale-Craft tender:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dlpwrgyzc3pl4ehun0ezg/U50-02.JPG?rlkey=isdivuxqi0wwzveooo83vbf0r

This is the LWS version of this model, which (we can guess) used the Penn-Erie patterns. The Penn-Erie version, of which there are apparently very few, is aluminum. I do indeed have one, but it arrived some eight years after this one. It appears in the Penn-Erie (LWS) thread:
http://www.modeltrainjournal.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17017&p=394485

Here is a bottom view of the lead sled:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/wjn41asanczkzubnmk9gs/U50-04.JPG?rlkey=nxsrsgzldelmbefnch40tm1jv

Bob is correct that those are the AAR type A trucks made by GMC-AN for the diecast NW2. The gearboxes are likewise GMC-AN (with standard insulated wheels). The chassis frame is something of an erector set affair:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gsttk4dducqp66y0mjwp0/U50-06.JPG?rlkey=n91j2qlv64ulckuj3iv86slr7

I had not made any attempt to get the chassis upgraded when another home-made B-B-B-B chassis appeared on eBay the next year:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ego426nsmau670xo3deov/B-B-B-B-Chassis.jpg?rlkey=3xt50havg1hf87e9xwkx4e23u

What are the odds? I mostly bought this for the proper AAR type-B trucks, but it also gives me options for the gearboxes and motors. Alas, the project still sits. The body needs some TLC and is probably best stripped and reworked as needed. If that happens, this one will get SP colors.

Jim

[up148]

Interesting chassis on the bottom. Some creative modeler was going to make a UP #50 double ended turbine that was never offered in O scale. Pretty cool.

[bob turner]

Lower mechanism looks almost ready to bolt in. I think I would replace the larger and older Pittmans with the smaller 8000 motors from the NW2 mechanism, especially if the third digit is a 1 on the larger motors and a 2 on the smaller motors. That would have the added advantage of lowering the driveshaft, giving a better power transfer on straight track.

[ScaleCraft]

Lower mechanism looks almost ready to bolt in. I think I would replace the larger and older Pittmans with the smaller 8000 motors from the NW2 mechanism, especially if the third digit is a 1 on the larger motors and a 2 on the smaller motors. That would have the added advantage of lowering the driveshaft, giving a better power transfer on straight track.

I dunno. I think I'd like to keep u-joints as straight as possible.

[R.K. Maroon]

Some creative modeler was going to make a UP #50 double ended turbine

Or something like that:


https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ep5ll4qaqsx09gxqka0i5/SKU-B-B-B-B-01.JPG?rlkey=injus0hzvgqiw59v841avcov1