Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:13 am

R.K. Maroon wrote:This was a tedious task, one not recommended for the impatient.

The learning curve is a bit steep.


Those 2 conditions leave me out, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nonetheless, a good exercise and outcome - look forward to seeing the final result on the loco!


I wisely have kept careful notes over the years, as I create and print decals infrequently, such that I would be starting over each time without the notes.


Good tip for all on more than just decal creation
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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby bob turner » Sat May 23, 2026 1:15 pm

Bump. Mostly because our last post was two days ago - what are we doing here? Trying to match OGR for not posting?

The Mongrel Mogul now has a couple coats of self-etching primer, which turns out to be smooth enough for decals! I will be happy to post more photos, but am going to hold off a bit until we get a few non-bobturner photos posted. Shutterfly has not protested the hundreds of photos I have had them host, but I still add more with trepidation. Maybe they will look kindly upon me for buying my own books?

Maroon and I are looking at resurrecting the Lobaugh Suburban as well - if we start that, I will change the title above to Mongrels, both Mogul and Suburban. That is exactly what these two are - a dying Lobaugh company using up spare parts.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby bob turner » Sun May 24, 2026 2:41 pm

The primer is SEM self-etching black - available on Amazon for the low low price of $28 and change for a single can. Results are as good as the old Scale Coat, and it looks smooth enough for decals. I have access to this high quality, expensive rattle-can through my honorary employment as an aircraft mechanic, but am going to lay in a can next time I accumulate a $35 order.

I suppose I freaked out a bit when my favorite rattle cans (Dupli Color) went from $4/can to $8 (now $17) but this stuff is so good it is almost worth it!
I still have photos waiting - need a couple more Ten-Wheelers from others so inclined first.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby bob turner » Sat May 30, 2026 10:30 pm

Maroon supplied gorgeous alloy tender arch bar trucks. The alloy isn't strong enough to hold the screws that hold the bolster - soweare using Lobaugh Andrews tender trucks - not bad, but not elegant.

The trucks we need are those Wabash Mogul trucks - kit K-9092 or side frames K-5167. USH did them as well - X-1040 (probably a Kemtron part #).

I will check with Wiseman - he may have the master. Meantime, if any of you have spares of those or Lobaugh arch bar tender, let us know.

The Mogul is done, except for that. Photos tomorrow, then off it goes.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun May 31, 2026 11:58 am

X-1040 (probably a Kemtron part #).


Yes. Kemtron used X-####
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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby R.K. Maroon » Sun May 31, 2026 10:57 pm

bob turner wrote:X-1040 (probably a Kemtron part #)

Indeed
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Re: Mongrel Mogul

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 01, 2026 1:51 am

Here we go - will look a bit more authentic with Kemtron trucks:

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 08, 2026 2:11 pm

Adding the Suburban - Maroon captured the one offered on eBay last month, and offered it to me - not being a lover of tank engines, I sort of declined, but offered to complete the assembly.

These things are rarer than hens teeth - I have only heard of two of them, and one of those is in my shop as I type. Jack Jupp had the other, and at one point I had a photo. Jack and his buddies are all long gone.

Ed Bommer is delighted that we actually uncovered one, and is further delighted that we will put CNJ logo on it.

Anyway, here it is, unpainted, and needing a tad more lowering in the back. Runs exceptionally smoothly on my 68" radius test loop with a string of freight cars. It will get three CNJ passenger cars behind it when it gets back to Jim.

Uh-oh. I took it with the iPad. Shutterfly cannot handle those images. You will only see the poorly painted black version - too bad; it was elegant in brass!

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby R.K. Maroon » Mon Jun 08, 2026 10:10 pm

bob turner wrote:Adding the Suburban Tank. You will only see the poorly painted black version - too bad; it was elegant in brass!

As it is, Bob had previously emailed the photo that he wanted to post:

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As best I can tell from a search on the internet, only the CNJ and the CN had 4-6-4T locomotives, and both used them in suburban service. Here is one of CNJ's half-dozen:

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This photo can be found online at rrpicturesarchive.net:
https://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1675599

Inspection shows that the Lobaugh model differs from the CNJ prototype in several important ways, but given that choices are limited and that no commercial O-scale model of the CNJ 4-6-4T has ever been offered, the Lobaugh version is a welcome stand-in.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 08, 2026 11:12 pm

Thanks for posting that. Before the horrible paint job I got it level. I may have to get the big bead blaster fixed so I can try for a repaint.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jun 09, 2026 11:41 am

Didn't K-line do a 4-6-6T?
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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby up148 » Tue Jun 09, 2026 1:36 pm

Before the horrible paint job I got it level. I may have to get the big bead blaster fixed so I can try for a repaint.


The paint looks new, but not horrible. A little light weathering would take care of any ills.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 09, 2026 2:11 pm

Yeah, I didn't post the horrible paint photo. Today I am stripping, blasting, removing the roof, and re-doing it:

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Not sure you can tell, but I did get it dead-level. And even with all this horrible black paint it runs just fine.
I do have a teeny bit of Scale Coat left (thanks, Jay) and I may have to resort to an airbrush.

And Maroon got gorgeous decals - the Statue of Liberty surrounded by road name, in yellow. Yay!

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby SWrailroader » Tue Jun 09, 2026 5:08 pm

Nifty! One wonders if Lobaugh used the wagon top boiler from their 4-4-0.

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Re: Mongrel Mogul, Suburban, and maybe other Lobaugh Oddities

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 09, 2026 8:48 pm

No need to wonder. Frame from Pacific, cylinders from 0-6-0, boiler from Atlantic, water tank from Climax.

Same sort of idea for the never seen 4-6-0.


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