Another "rare" Bill Lenoir………..

[herronpeter]

………(designed) model is for sale on the "BAY"!! I’ve said before I’m not that familiar with the early O scale stuff, but this ad caught my BS meter!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CENTRAL-LOCOMO ... 632-2357-0

Peter

[ScaleCraft]

Observations:

#1 and #2 crankpin screws missing on engineer's side. Same side, bottom of mainrod has been rubbing on crosshead support. Flathead screw through cylinder saddle. Same side, looks like #4 rod journal is shot.
Filthy underneath.

Tender floor is wood...no idea what the two huge holes are for. BUT: the corner holes apparently for screws to retain shell are empty, at least on engineer's side.

Pilot steps bent, paint real bad in a couple of places (like, pilot and above fireman's window).
Ran when parked? Right. Fetching idea with cotton stuffed in stack.

Not for that kind of money.

Opinion.

[steamaheadstephen59]

It does need work! I purchased the Saginaw H-10 in similar condition just couple of months ago for just over a hundred dollars.

[bob turner]

While I think these are $25-=350, they are often offered for $550 on eBay. And indeed Lenoir did design this one, along with the G5 and E6 that Saginaw produced.

When you see them at $100, jump on them even if crankpin screws are missing. Sell for $300 all day long.

Opinion.

[ScaleCraft]

While I think these are $25-=350, they are often offered for $550 on eBay. And indeed Lenoir did design this one, along with the G5 and E6 that Saginaw produced.

When you see them at $100, jump on them even if crankpin screws are missing. Sell for $300 all day long.

Opinion.

except this one is reserve of $500 (starting bid=reserve).
$300? Maybe. Not $500.

[bob turner]

I do not know if they sell at $500 - my point is that they are routinely offered on eBay starting at $550. I have six; no longer buying at any price. Several of mine cost under $100.

[Jay Criswell]

I wouldn't pay $10 for any of them. Do I win?

Jay

[ScaleCraft]

I wouldn't pay $10 for any of them. Do I win?

Jay

Maybe. Maybe naught. At least you're getting closer to what I'd pay for one.

[bob turner]

As doorstops go, they are among the better ones. Of course they are not for folks who want "Key" realism.

[prrjim]

Yes the BS meter on this one is probably Pegged to the right post!

I was pretty sure that there was no such thing as CLW in 1941. I just looked it up, Bob Smith as CLW bought the Lenoir/Saginaw line in 1950. So this "example" is a Saginaw model, not CLW. Another hint is the open axle gear. I have seen a lot of CLW H10s and all have had clsed gearboxes. In 1950 however, I wonder.

As for rarity, my opinion is that these are very common, expecially the real CLW ones. I seem to see 2-3 at nearly every O scale show I go to.

The CLW is a decent model of a PRR H10 and with a good paint job looks good on a layout. to add insult to injury on this one, some jaboney has painted if with a fictitious roadname and cabagges up the front to look like some thing else.

I agree something like this will have a hard time pulling in bids of 100 from anyone who is actually in O scale.

[bob turner]

I see a lot of overpriced stuff on eBay. My solution is to just not bid.

That's the beauty of the free market - you can ask any price you want, and nobody is forced to buy.

Of course, don't bid on this one. And be aware that early CLW looked a lot like late Saginaw, right down to the cast tender and iron drivers. Bob's "improvements" moved it slightly away from the doorstop category, with etched tenders, plastic drivers, and less realistic frames. His rods and valve gear were works of art.