I have an opportunity to pick up a 3rd Rail "Early" Challenger with a Sofue drive and before I decide what to do, I wondered if anyone else imported this model? This Challenger was imported at the beginning of 3rd Rail (2001), when they were located in Campbell, Ca and Mort was still involved with the company.
It's easy to see the 3R compromises (high water tender, sparse detail, one piece axle plate for all three axles, etc), but I think I can change those out, unless there are other issues I don't know about that make improving it unfeasible.
I was told there were two runs of early Challenger by 3rd Rail, one built by Samhongsa and one by and unknown builder....this bears a Sunset data plate so I'm assuming it was the unknown builder. Anyone know any more about that?
Who imported "Early" Challengers beside 3rd Rail
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Re: Who imported "Early" Challengers beside 3rd Rail
With a Sofue drive you will probably be ok. The only serious flaw with early Sunset was the brass axle gear, and they got away from that in a hurry. Most Sunset (one exception is the Harriman Atlantic) was extremely well built from substantial thick brass.
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Thanks Bob, I forgot you knew a lot about the SS/3rd Rail locos. With that brass axle replaced that problem is eliminated.
I can't believe (but don't remember ever seeing one) that no one imported an "Early" Challenger. Tons of late model Challengers, imported by everyone and yet only SS/3rd Rail on the "Early".
I can't believe (but don't remember ever seeing one) that no one imported an "Early" Challenger. Tons of late model Challengers, imported by everyone and yet only SS/3rd Rail on the "Early".
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Well,International . . .
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If by International you mean IMP (International Model Products,) I think a guy like me could more easily update and correct the mistakes on the SS than an older IMP. "A man's got to know his limitations"
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Re: Who imported "Early" Challengers beside 3rd Rail
I agree - what is incorrect on the Sunset? Lobaugh is too crude for really accurate upgrades, but I often mistake Sunset for PSC. At a distance of two feet.
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This model was imported around 2001/03 and has all the typical 3R compromises that early SS/3rd Rail models had, but I believe I can change them out and have a pretty accurate model. The paint is good, so I'll have to protect that. With the Sofue drive it should be worth the time and $$$ to make it as correct as possible. Sadly, looking at my older PSC detail catalogs, many items I would like to add are no longer available...so maybe I'll build some fabrication skills.
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up148 wrote:Sadly, looking at my older PSC detail catalogs, many items I would like to add are no longer available...
Have you called them to confirm that they are discontinued?
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Re: Who imported "Early" Challengers beside 3rd Rail
No I haven't, but Marty M is going to sell me a complete detail kit when he returns home. I don't need it all, but will have spare details to modify and use elsewhere if the need arises.
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Okay, I was just wondering what the status might be of some stuff that seems long gone might really be and/or whether some might be available if directly requested.
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Re: Who imported "Early" Challengers beside 3rd Rail
Hello all
International Challenger 1952 + -
video link
https://youtu.be/TfxU8Ap3uIs
Lobaugh prewar Challenger 1940-1
video link
https://youtu.be/f0IJjA6nEv8
cheers Carey
International Challenger 1952 + -
video link
https://youtu.be/TfxU8Ap3uIs
Lobaugh prewar Challenger 1940-1
video link
https://youtu.be/f0IJjA6nEv8
cheers Carey
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