NYC at 'breaking point'

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby HONDO74 » Thu May 18, 2023 6:13 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Perhaps a poignant perspective :
As reported in the News today, average rental for an apartment in Manhattan is $5,300 per month (!)


$63,600 per year. How much does a person have to earn per year to pay that rent :?:

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby robert. » Thu May 18, 2023 6:32 pm

$4000 a week or there abouts . If you go by rent being 30 percent of your income. That’s probably why lots of places are empty . NYC Reits are trading around $6-8 a share. Down from pre covid range of $90 s share.
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby gregj410 » Thu May 18, 2023 7:11 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Perhaps a poignant perspective :
As reported in the News today, average rental for an apartment in Manhattan is $5,300 per month (!)


$63,600 per year. How much does a person have to earn per year to pay that rent :?:



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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu May 18, 2023 7:57 pm

And don’t forget, “average” means there are plenty of apartments costing well above that average .

Back in the 70”s , I was invited to a party in a person’s home in The Dakota building (corner of 72St and Central Park West). Bogart and Becall had a place there, as did John Lennon and Yoko. The apt I was a guest in was bi-level, a rarity, and spectacular . Can we imagine what a home there cost?!
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby robert. » Thu May 18, 2023 8:53 pm

I went to Robin Quiver’s apartment in that building. She had a 2 floors also. She claimed it was a rent control building.
Places around me are going up up and up. So many From New York moving in. A 1 bedroom Apt brings $1,900-2,100. Lots of folks moved out of NYC. and work from home here. A few times a month they hit the city for in person day.
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby up148 » Fri May 19, 2023 7:26 am

How many years until "Escape from NY" and Escape from LA" become a reality. :shock:

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby Neil » Fri May 19, 2023 7:45 am

New York is the safest large city in the USA. The murder and violent crime rate are much higher in most rural red states than in NYC. We have a lot of experts here who have never been to NYC, much less lived there. The major problem in NYC is not crime or quality of life, it's the ridiculously high cost of housing. Most emigration from NYC is not from people afraid of crime, taxes and the usual right wing nonsense concepts, but because housing is less expensive in other cities or suburban areas. The solution is building more housing, but this is very difficult due to expense and opposition from the communities. NYC residents and the suburbs are their own worst enemies in this regard. But crime ain't a problem compared with Wyoming :).
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby HONDO74 » Fri May 19, 2023 8:17 am

Chicago had more total homicides in 2022 than Philadelphia (516), New York City (438), Houston (435) and Los Angeles (382), which rounded out the top five, according to a report from Wirepoints, an Illinois-based research and news organization that surveyed 2022 crime data from 75 of the largest U.S. cities.

Group names Chicago, New Orleans as U.S. murder capitals
https://www.thecentersquare.com/nationa ... e071e.html

(The Center Square) – Chicago recorded 697 total homicides in 2022, far more than any other city in the United States, but New Orleans had the highest murder rate per capita, according to a new report from a nonprofit research group.

Chicago had more total homicides in 2022 than Philadelphia (516), New York City (438), Houston (435) and Los Angeles (382), which rounded out the top five, according to a report from Wirepoints, an Illinois-based research and news organization that surveyed 2022 crime data from 75 of the largest U.S. cities.

New Orleans had the highest homicide rate in the nation in 2022 with 74.3 homicides per 100,000 people. It was followed by St. Louis (68.2), Baltimore (58.1), Detroit (48.9) and Memphis (45.9), Wirepoints found.

The total number of homicides and the rates are different ways to look at the same problem, said Ted Dabrowski, president of Wirepoints.

"You can't ignore when one city has the most murders in the country. Especially 11 years in a row. And so that's why it's also really important to look at the total number of homicides. Chicago has almost 700 homicides. A city that's much, much larger, like New York, has fewer than 500. So your rates matter, but so does the outright number."

The difference between New York City and Chicago was stark in 2022, Dabrowski said. Chicago, with about 2.7 million residents, reported 697 homicides and a homicide rate of 25.8 per 100,000 people. New York, with about 8.5 million residents, reported 438 homicides and a homicide rate of 5.2 per 100,000 people.

"In Chicago, we've got the trifecta of [Mayor] Lori Lightfoot and her anti-policing rhetoric. You've got [Cook County State's Attorney] Kim Foxx and her goal to decriminalize crimes. And you got Tim Evans, the chief judge, who has created a revolving door by not sentencing strictly," Dabrowski said. "New York is pursuing, generally, a tougher stance on crime."

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby Neil » Fri May 19, 2023 8:45 am

Violent crime rates and death rates due to guns, whether homicide or suicide, are much higher in most red states than California or New York, the usual targets of right wing radical misinformation. So much for being tough in crime as a strategy.
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby HONDO74 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:43 am

Neil wrote:Violent crime rates and death rates due to guns, whether homicide or suicide, are much higher in most red states than California or New York, the usual targets of right wing radical misinformation. So much for being tough in crime as a strategy.


Violent crime in the big democrat controlled cities is caused by Gangs and Drugs

And you don't need a gun in NY to commit mass murder a truck will work.
Terror Attack Kills 8 and Injures 11 in Manhattan
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/nyre ... attan.html

A driver plowed a pickup truck down a crowded bike path along the Hudson River in Manhattan on Tuesday, killing eight people and injuring 11 before being shot by a police officer in what officials are calling the deadliest terrorist attack on New York City since Sept. 11, 2001.

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby Neil » Fri May 19, 2023 9:54 am

Amazing, the number of experts, who live in the boonies, but are so knowledgeable about big cities.
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby HONDO74 » Fri May 19, 2023 10:16 am

Neil wrote:Amazing, the number of experts, who live in the boonies, but are so knowledgeable about big cities.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is that the best you can do. I look up the facts and provide links to the information.

Like this.
https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/tr ... eath-rates

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2021 with more than 106,000 drug overdose deaths reported in 2021. Deaths involving synthetic opioids other than methadone (primarily fentanyl) continued to rise with 70,601 overdose deaths reported in 2021.

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby Neil » Fri May 19, 2023 10:18 am

You spin the facts to support your anti-urban, anti-immigrant agenda.
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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby HONDO74 » Fri May 19, 2023 10:49 am

Neil wrote:You spin the facts to support your anti-urban, anti-immigrant agenda.


There you go again no facts to back up anything you are posting.

NYC set them selves up as a sanctuary city. To protect people who have lived there for years from being deported by ICE because they have broken the law.

The unintended consequences is they became a magnet for thousands of others looking for a home.

If you are going to do this then it's up to you to provide for the thousands that are now showing up at your doorstep

That's why NYC is at the breaking point. The problems are in the news daily. It's going to cost New York billions of dollars. Plus they don't know where to put all these new arrivals.

Just like with the homeless. I"M not sure it's a fixable problem. And no I don't have an answer for it either

I think Eric Adams is doing the best he can under these circumstances He didn't create it he inherited it.

What would be your solution for it Neil.

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Re: NYC at 'breaking point'

Postby Neil » Fri May 19, 2023 11:15 am

New York City is in a lot better shape than Texas. If you knew anyone living there you'd know that. Texas is busily setting itself up for power shortages, air pollution, depriving women of their bodily autonomy, and persecuting people with serious health problems. Pretty soon no one who wants to train in medicine will want to live in Texas. Same with Idaho, Montana, Florida and Oklahoma or Missouri. Enjoy your voyage back to the Bronze Age without physicians or scientists, most of whom don't want anything to do with your savage, prehistoric approach to human life. We'll take the immigrants in preference to the xenophobes, white supremacists, homophobes, misogynists and anti-semites. At least they want to work to make the world a better place.
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