The WAR on Drugs

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The WAR on Drugs

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:38 pm

33 pounds of fentanyl – enough to wipe out Massachusetts – seized in Boston
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/09/33 ... oston.html

Boston authorities said they seized more than 33 pounds of fentanyl—enough to kill millions of people—in connection with one of Massachusetts’ biggest drug busts ever.

“Individuals who buy and sell at this level aren’t users,” Conley said. “They’re not small-time dealers, either. They’re certainly not selling to support a habit. They’re trafficking in addictive substances that claim more lives in Massachusetts than all homicides, all suicides, and all car crashes, statewide, combined.”

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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 pm

The sophistication required to handle that much fentanyl is something that I find being overlooked here. This is not something easily handled by simple criminals. There's something missing in this story that is not being told.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby aterry11 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Recently they pulled that much, maybe more I don't remember, off the east bound CZ at the Amtrak station stop in Omaha. Never leave your backpack unattended.

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Postby HONDO74 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:06 pm

West Virginia calls in National Guard to tackle opioid crisis
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/02/0 ... risis.html

In Huntington, W.Va., the guard has been called in to help tackle the opioid crisis — which the governor has described as a disaster.

“We have to stop this terrible drug epidemic,” West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice said. “We have to. If we don't, it will cannibalize us."

Huntington has been called the overdose capital of America, with double the national average of overdoses, due in part to the decline of the coal industry, a lack of jobs and the easy availability of the drugs. And law enforcement is stretched thin.

On Wednesday, the guard answered a call that led to the bust of an alleged dealer and the recovery of 430 grams of fentanyl, far more powerful than heroin, with a street value of $86,000.

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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby robert. » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:29 pm

I had a customer that was kill by her DR. Husband. She was a radio talk show host living in south jersey. He was giving prescriptions to a biker gang for fentanyll. This was something she hated. After threatening to go public .he had the bikers kill her. I took a few years for the police to find out. Last month the arrested him. A week later they found him hanging in his cell. Look up April Kaufman. Sad story. She was a real nice lady
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:15 pm

Opioid crisis worse than Pablo Escobar era: ex-DEA agents
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/op ... dea-agents

Javier Pena and Steve Murphy, who led the manhunt for Pablo Escobar in late 1980s and early 1990s when they were DEA agents, are set to go before Congress on Tuesday to warn lawmakers about the vast amount of counterfeit fentanyl and other killer opioids flooding American streets.

“The one thing that we’re finding out is that these new traffickers, like the ones we chased in 1980s and 1990s, are getting smarter at hiding their drugs,” Pena told FOX Business during an interview ahead of his testimony with the House Energy and Commerce Committee chair.

“Now, most of them are coming through as counterfeit medications, and they are getting people sick, and they are dying,”

Pena, who retired four years ago after serving with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration for 30 years, said he and Murphy are trying to get the word out on how the Sinaloa Cartel and MS-13 gangs are going to great lengths to get illegal drugs in the form of medications into the United States. In January, President Donald Trump also warned Americans about the violence surrounding MS-13 during his State of Union address.

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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:31 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Opioid crisis worse than Pablo Escobar era: ex-DEA agents
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/op ... dea-agents

Javier Pena and Steve Murphy, who led the manhunt for Pablo Escobar in late 1980s and early 1990s when they were DEA agents, are set to go before Congress on Tuesday to warn lawmakers about the vast amount of counterfeit fentanyl and other killer opioids flooding American streets.


Is that the same Congress that the pharma companies paid off to gut the DEA's enforcement abilities?

If so, Tuesday will be another dog & pony show while everyone else is tuned in to Zuckerburg getting grilled, toasted and roasted......at the other dog & pony show.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby rogruth » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:29 pm

I ask this same type of question too often.
I don't have answers and don't even know all the questions but
What can be done about the above problems?
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby rex desilets » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:53 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:Opioid crisis worse than Pablo Escobar era: ex-DEA agents
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/op ... dea-agents

Javier Pena and Steve Murphy, who led the manhunt for Pablo Escobar in late 1980s and early 1990s when they were DEA agents, are set to go before Congress on Tuesday to warn lawmakers about the vast amount of counterfeit fentanyl and other killer opioids flooding American streets.


Is that the same Congress that the pharma companies paid off to gut the DEA's enforcement abilities?

If so, Tuesday will be another dog & pony show while everyone else is tuned in to Zuckerburg getting grilled, toasted and roasted......at the other dog & pony show.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:15 am

rex desilets wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:Opioid crisis worse than Pablo Escobar era: ex-DEA agents
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/op ... dea-agents

Javier Pena and Steve Murphy, who led the manhunt for Pablo Escobar in late 1980s and early 1990s when they were DEA agents, are set to go before Congress on Tuesday to warn lawmakers about the vast amount of counterfeit fentanyl and other killer opioids flooding American streets.


Is that the same Congress that the pharma companies paid off to gut the DEA's enforcement abilities?

If so, Tuesday will be another dog & pony show while everyone else is tuned in to Zuckerburg getting grilled, toasted and roasted......at the other dog & pony show.
Miniver Cheevy child of scorn..... :(

Try accepting reality. I know that is difficult, but try. I know all the lies and fraud makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, but every so often you need to try to accept reality.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby up148 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:29 am

The problem is, in our country and our world, there are many levels of reality, so trying to get a consensus is impossible. We had a discussion like this many months ago here. This forum, like our country, is diabolically opposed in mindset on how to solve our problems and politics in general. Liberals and Conservatives have never been split wider in opinion before, IMHO. We all have very strong opinions, they just don't agree.

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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:39 am

up148 wrote:The problem is, in our country and our world, there are many levels of reality, so trying to get a consensus is impossible. We had a discussion like this many months ago here. This forum, like our country, is diabolically opposed in mindset on how to solve our problems and politics in general. Liberals and Conservatives have never been split wider in opinion before, IMHO. We all have very strong opinions, they just don't agree.


Maybe. Maybe not. Are the many levels of reality like alternate facts?

I just have not heard anyone anywhere propose any actual workable solutions other than to point and blame others, and just make stuff up. In the meantime everthing get worse.

Congress likes to talk and appear concerned and doing "something" as it is an election year. After 30+ years of living in the DC area and being a Gov't employee whose career was directly tied to the whims of Congress, you gain an appreciation for what and when Congress is going to actually do anything other that posture, get on camera, and appear to be acting so they can generate sound bites to be used on Meet the Press and in their re-election campaigns.

They are as much a part of the problem as they could be part of the solution.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby up148 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:21 am

I think a person's reality of any given situation is based on the facts he is given and chooses to believe. And, Congress is actually more responsible than the people. We hire them (vote them in) expecting them to know better than the average citizen, but that's a joke. So, as long as no one gives a damn, nothing is going to change, regardless of who's in power.

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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:00 am

up148 wrote:And, Congress is actually more responsible than the people.


That is sort of the idea, and intention, but we do not hold them adequately accountable.

We hire them (vote them in) expecting them to know better than the average citizen, but that's a joke.


Well, on many topics, they do know better and on an equal or greater number, they know less - supposedly they are supported by a staff and consultants to be able to access and understand information to make decisions on our behalf.

This is where all the lobbyists and special interest groups skew that intention and the people lose.

So, as long as no one gives a damn, nothing is going to change, regardless of who's in power.


Congress gives a damn.................about getting re-elected................and getting paid.

Maybe they would do their jobs if the river of money were cut off and they were held to the same standards that Congress applies to the employees.
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Re: The WAR on Drugs

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:03 am

Nothing will ever change because there are millions of people that crave the product, Getting high to avoid reality is now the norm. It's just a case of supply and demand. :(


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