The invasion of Europe

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:14 pm

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Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:I suspect Kurdish women are not triggered by microaggressions


Why don't you investigate that personally, write a nice report, and send that back in triplicate....
No Visa for Iraq, unfortunately :D Also, short of travel funds these days. But I'd sure like to meet these women.


Meet The Kurdish Women Fighting ISIS
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/female-isis-fighters

To an ISIS militant, one of the worst things that could transpire in combat is not just being killed, but being killed by a woman. If this happens, ISIS members believe that they will go directly to hell. If hell exists, rest assured that they have been sent there by a number of Kurdish women.

Images for kurdish women fighters
https://www.google.com/search?q=kurdish ... 16&bih=630

I would classify these women as the baddest of the BADASSES. :wink: :mrgreen: I would not dare call one of them a pussy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fearless female Kurdish sniper laughs as |S|S bullet just misses head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XES5ZojYPxw

Seriously, what would just about anyone you can think of do if a high caliber bullet missed their brain by a few inches? They'd excuse themselves, go to the bathroom, and clean out whatever they'd just dropped in their pants.

Then there's this Kurdish member of the YPG stationed in Raqqa, Syria. She's in a fearsome battalion of women taking it to ISIS every day across Syria and Iraq. Right after the bullet digs a hole in the wall behind her she just laughs as if she's heard a pretty good joke at a cocktail party.

According to The Guardian, the group played a crucial role in rescuing Yazidis trapped by ISIS on Mount Sinjar in 2014.

The armed female unit is estimated to have 7,000 volunteer fighters, ranging from ages 18 to 40.

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:31 pm

rex desilets wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:I suspect Kurdish women are not triggered by microaggressions


Why don't you investigate that personally, write a nice report, and send that back in triplicate....
No Visa for Iraq, unfortunately :D Also, short of travel funds these days. But I'd sure like to meet these women.


Pretty sure you don't.
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:21 am

Merkel says Germany has 'no-go areas;' gov't won't say where
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... t-53416102

German officials have been left speechless by Chancellor Angela Merkel's comment that there are "no-go areas" in the country.
The notion there are places in Germany outsiders — including police — can't visit has previously been dismissed by officials.
In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, "that's areas where nobody dares to go."
She added: "There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them."
Asked to name the areas, Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters Wednesday that "the chancellor's words speak for themselves."

Conservatives and populists have long warned of the existence of such zones as the partial consequence of mass Muslim migration from the Middle East and Africa, particularly after Merkel opened Germany’s borders in 2015 as a response to the Syrian refugee crisis. Such areas are said to be dogged by high-levels of crime and are described as "no-go zones" because outsiders, including police and other authorities, are unable to enter.

Merkel, who won Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" in 2015 in part because of her open-borders stance

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:15 am

robert. wrote:Anti Muslim is all the rage these days. It's great sensationalism. Yet domestic violence kills more then terrorism.Texting and driving kills more.In Chicago more people die by gang violence then Muslim terrorism. We should really clean up our own backyard before we clean up somebody else's.

"All the rage these days" ?!!! Do you think we made this stuff up? If so, let me escort you to the PREVIOUS site of the WTC in NYC, for a bit of reflection on reality.

Give them time. They have a plan. Let's not be naïve.

We can tie-our-shoes AND chew-gum at the same time; that is, we can work on domestic crime AND work on being vigilant and defensive against the terrorists which ARE ALREADY HERE (see News about last Halloween in NYC and an immigrant who lived/hid-out in NJ) AND ON THE WAY.

Life is complicated. Let's not take a simplistic or myopic approach to saving ourselves. (?)
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:47 am

robert. wrote:Yet domestic violence kills more then terrorism.


Sadly true and glossed over - better than 75% of the terrorism death in the country have been caused by domestic terroists that have nothing to do with anything related to Muslim related terrorism, yet the response to it is disproportionately low.

Texting and driving kills more.


And, that's increasing; fold in distracted pedestrian deaths now and that just gets worse......and nothing gets done.

In Chicago more people die by gang violence


Yes; I seem to recall a statement about the carnage stopping now -- "now" is a moving target -- nothing gets done and nothing changes

......the terrorists which ARE ALREADY HERE


We do a great job of growing our own - look at school shootings over just the past 3 years...............that's been getting worse, increasing in frequency.....and nothing gets done. The carnage stops now - BS!
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:37 pm

Germany let in over a million invaders. The invaders are not all Muslims. They have staked out their own enclaves. These enclaves now called no go zones are so dangerous that even the police won't go there.

In Chicago the police do patrol all the high crime areas.

Chancellor Angela Merkel' said they didn't have any no go zones until it became so dangerous that now she want's something done about it.

There is an old saying about it's a little late to close the barn door after all the horses got out. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:10 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:We do a great job of growing our own - look at school shootings over just the past 3 years...............that's been getting worse, increasing in frequency.....and nothing gets done. The carnage stops now - BS!


As I said before, schools are magnets for shootings. When they finally come to that conclusion they just might harden the schools like they did the airports all over the world and all the court houses in this country.

The Ohio student, who fatally shot himself in his school’s restroom last week intended to carry out a school shooting “bigger than anything this country’s ever seen,” authorities said.
Jackson Township Police Chief Mark Brink said a memo discovered on Simons’ phone revealed the teen’s “fascination with school shooters, specifically the Columbine shooters,” referring to the 1999 massacre in Colorado. Simons intended to conduct his own school massacre “with an eight-step plan

A portion of an entry dated Feb. 19 reads:
“(T)his will be bigger than anything this country’s ever seen, … I’ve been planning this for a few weeks and thought about it a few months, I will never be forgotten I’ll be a stain in American history and the Simons history, it’s going to be so mutch [sic]. They won’t expect a thing.”

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:55 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:We do a great job of growing our own - look at school shootings over just the past 3 years...............that's been getting worse, increasing in frequency.....and nothing gets done. The carnage stops now - BS!


As I said before, schools are magnets for shootings. When they finally come to that conclusion they just might harden the schools like they did the airports all over the world and all the court houses in this country.


How many schools are there in the country all the way up through colleges and universities? Harden them how? Restrict access to entrances on dozens of buildings? Who are the personnel to perform this duty? Who pays for it? Who runs it all? Oh, we pay for it and the Gov't runs it. Well, I guess that makes this a jobs program......

They'll just move to a different target.....

And none of that has any impact at all on guys that decide to shoot up a concert in Vegas.

All of the so-called solutions are reactive and none are pro-active to address the cause and ability to intercede and interrupt.
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:37 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:And none of that has any impact at all on guys that decide to shoot up a concert in Vegas.



Or drive a 19 tonne cargo truck into crowds of people celebrating resulting in the deaths of 86 people and the injury of 458 others. Never know when that's going to happen. But on New years eve NYC they did barricade the streets where all the people were going to be celebrating.

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby webenda » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:25 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Fearless female Kurdish sniper laughs as |S|S bullet just misses head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XES5ZojYPxw

She needs more training. Did you see her close her eyes as she squeezed off a round?
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She had her head too close to the scope, it smacked her in the eye.
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I could not hear what the guys in the room were saying to her but this is her response.
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The conversation with the cameraman went something like this:
Hûn dibînin ev gule ye
oh, ew gule
yek, lê ev gule
dijberî min, 14 kes hene ku ez serokê yek dîtim li dora duyem
qeçik di nav çiyê de bibînin
Xwedê, çawa min neda
nêzîkî nêzîk, hûn çi dikir, nêzîk

Put that into Google Translate.

Cameraman: You see this bullet.
Sniper: oh, he shot.
Cameraman: One, but this shot.
Sniper: Against me, there are 14 people. I saw the head of one and fired.
Cameraman: See the bullet came in at this angle.
Sniper: God, how not touched me? Close, close, so close.

Note she is smiling all the time. I don't think that means she was laughing the incident off. I used to fly with a pilot in the Army who would start smiling when he was really worried about something. I remember one time at Williams Air Force base the weather report for our return flight had him smiling (thunder storms.) I told him not to worry, just fly between the thunderheads like the airlines do. Once we were underway he quit smiling and seemed to enjoy playing gymkhana with the storms.
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:44 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:And none of that has any impact at all on guys that decide to shoot up a concert in Vegas.



Or drive a 19 tonne cargo truck into crowds of people celebrating resulting in the deaths of 86 people and the injury of 458 others. Never know when that's going to happen. But on New years eve NYC they did barricade the streets where all the people were going to be celebrating.


Exactly. Hardening the entire country is not feasible - just responsive/reactive and not pre-active to intercept and interrupt.
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:53 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Exactly. Hardening the entire country is not feasible - just responsive/reactive and not pre-active to intercept and interrupt.


Okay, so what are your ideas pro-active/pre-active. I have some thoughts about what could also be done in that area. Might be similar to yours or might be completely different. ?

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby rex desilets » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:28 pm

Allow a few guys (big, strong, etc) to have .50cal weapons, wandering around public venues.
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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:36 pm

An armed guard at the main entrance to each school, who challenges every soul who wishes entry after normal admission and classes have begun. Every bag is inspected, by hand, especially such things as musical instrument cases. Cost? The children are worth it. Eventually, the bad guys and nutcases may get the message to stay away. Plus, aren't there machines that have been developed and that are being developed that can see thru clothing and people who might want to carry a concealed small-arms weapon into the buildings?

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Re: The invasion of Europe

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:52 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Exactly. Hardening the entire country is not feasible - just responsive/reactive and not pre-active to intercept and interrupt.


Okay, so what are your ideas pro-active/pre-active. I have some thoughts about what could also be done in that area. Might be similar to yours or might be completely different. ?


First, it's not an easy thing to do and that's why the easy thing is to be on the response side. There's a 12' high fence around where I used to work with guards at every entrance and where your ID has to be scanned to get in...........except that they never actually look at the ID to see if the face on it matches the driver.............. And, you never scan out there......so someone could toss that ID over through the fence and you could re-enter repeatedly all day long..... It's those sort of gaps and thoughtlessness and inattention to what should be obvious details.

We have lots of security in place, but a lot of it seems to be flawed. We have TSA at the airports finding close to 4000 guns being attempted to be taken on planes in carry on luggage with a good number loaded and with a round chambered. I don't know what really happens to these people vs. what can happen - maybe stepping up the penalties for stupidity would be a good place to start.

I do know that the answer to a security failure is not always to add more security (add more is what every security expert will say....) but rather often it should be to fix or adjust the existing security.

One place to start might be reversing the FBI consolidation of its tip line center in WV. That clearly has not been a well planned or well run operation probably plagued by the Congressional patronization rewards system. Get that back into the hands of more local-regional responders

It's pretty obvious that these younger school shooters are telling the world before hand; maybe actually listening to them, getting all of the media systems to trigger/relay warnings to local authorities to follow up before something happens. It's been suggested that no one knows the students better than themselves - they want to be better protected, they need to be active participants in letting folks know there are problems - and folks need to actually listen to them instead of blowing them off as just children talking.

How you deal with guys like the Vegas shooter is harder, but it seems there were a few off things there that someone along the way might have picked up the phone and called in (somewhere.....) and maybe gotten someone to listen about.

Guy just goes out and rents truck and takes it into a crowd....hard to stop.........but again it seems that the clues that these people might do something do show up in hindsight at some very small slight level.

Problem is then you have to passively have surveillance over the entire country with sufficient algorithms to flag anomalies while then not violating the Constituion and privacy concerns. Oh, joy............
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