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Re: Question

Postby rogruth » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:58 pm

I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.
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Re: Question

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:45 pm

rogruth wrote:I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.


If we were living in the little ice age today, half the world population would die because we couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone.

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Re: Question

Postby rogruth » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:15 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
rogruth wrote:I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.


If we were living in the little ice age today, half the world population would die because we couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone.

I said coming out of. We don't know what the climate of the Earth will be. It has been changing all through written and fossil records.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:29 pm

rogruth wrote:.............a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.


Maybe another decimal point or 2
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Postby John Webster » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:24 am

Maple bats are becoming more common in major league baseball. They shatter with alarming regularity with pieces flying as far as second base.

Common uses for ash included oars and trestletrees (the wooden beams that connected horses to wagons). The wood is prized for it's combination of strength and flexibility.

There is a neighborhood in Cleveland trying to save their ash trees. The treatments cost about $100 per tree per year and have been effective so far. The residents feel that maintaining the character of the neighborhood is worth it.

One of the better speeches in congress was in protest of a proposal to permit aluminum bats in major league baseball:
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Postby John Webster » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:47 am

http://jeremyshiers.com/blog/global-tem ... ion-years/

http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warm ... peratures/

The low spots on the 600 million year graph indicate periods when the earth was frozen over, solid ice from pole to pole.
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Re: Question

Postby Roy » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:51 am

rogruth wrote:I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.
HONDO74 wrote:If we were living in the little ice age today, half the world population would die because we couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone.
rogruth wrote:I said coming out of. We don't know what the climate of the Earth will be. It has been changing all through written and fossil records.

I think we came out of that little ice age in the 1700's.
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Re: Question

Postby rogruth » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:14 am

Roy wrote:
rogruth wrote:I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.
HONDO74 wrote:If we were living in the little ice age today, half the world population would die because we couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone.
rogruth wrote:I said coming out of. We don't know what the climate of the Earth will be. It has been changing all through written and fossil records.

I think we came out of that little ice age in the 1700's.

Maybe so but the temperatures have been rising ever since.
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Postby up148 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:50 am

HONDO74 wrote:
rogruth wrote:I am one of those that believes that the Earth is still coming out of a little ice age that probably goes back over 1000 years.
I don't think we know what the "normal" temperature for the Earth is yet.


If we were living in the little ice age today, half the world population would die because we couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone.


Except for the ensuing chaos, this might not be a bad thing. We are way overpopulated in my book. With most of the heavily overpopulated areas not able to support themselves today or at any time. Tough love. :o :o :o

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Re: Question

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:57 am

Human population has grown very slowly for most of its existence on earth. Scientists currently estimate that modern human beings (Homo sapiens) evolved roughly 130,000 to 160,000 years ago. Many threats, from diseases to climate fluctuations, kept life expectancy short and death rates high in pre-industrial society, so it took until 1804 for the human population to reach one billion. From that point forward, however, population growth accelerated very quickly

Take a look at the chart of how long it takes to add 1 billion.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:26 pm

And don't forget about that caldera that encompasses all of Yellowstone. That isn't soup percolating under those geysers, ya know. When it finally blows its top, it will put enough dust into the entire atmosphere to blot out the sun for years, killing every plant on earth and everything else that depends on them.
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Postby rogruth » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:42 pm

I bet the roaches will survive.
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Re: Question

Postby webenda » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:36 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
P.S. I believe rising sea levels have been affecting Venice, to an ever-increasing, serious degree, and the sea wall they constructed isn't helping much, apparently.

The area Venice, IT is built on was flooding before Venice was there. It foods four times a year.

In 1604, to defray the cost of flood relief, Venice introduced what could be considered the first example of a 'stamp tax.

I don't have any photos from AD 166 when the Romans (they kept good records) wrote about the problem of Venice flooding, but I do have one from the 1927 floods.
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You left the caption off your photo. Fake news Murph, fake news! The caption would have revealed the same level of flood occurred 22 years prior.
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During the 20th century, when many artesian wells were sunk into the periphery of the lagoon to draw water for local industry, Venice began to subside. It was realised that extraction of water from the aquifer was the cause. The sinking has slowed markedly since artesian wells were banned in the 1960s. However, the city is still threatened by more frequent low-level floods (called Acqua alta, "high water") that creep to a height of several centimetres over its quays, regularly following certain tides. In many old houses, the former staircases used to unload goods are now flooded, rendering the former ground floor uninhabitable. And Venice continues to sink at a rate of 1 to 2 mm per year. Every quarter century that passes, Venice floods are one half to one inch higher.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:45 am

Nice to have learned more about it, Wayne. Thanks to your good offcies.

I remember, decades ago, Mrs. Kennedy getting involved in saving books and other treasures from those lower floors which had experienced a significant flooding event. I had also heard that those lower floors had been rendered unusable, largely, since then. So, no fake news from you! We all know we can depend on you for good stuff. Yup. :D

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Re: Question

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:11 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Has there ever been conjecture about what possessed them to build a whole city atop several low islands in a swamp in the first place?


Maybe it wasn't when they started?

Then again there seems to be a trend to build in a swamp.....Paris.......DC......
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