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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:16 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:When I see News of such conflagrations, I wonder if the terrorists are paying attention and getting "ideas." I'm serious.


We don't need terrorists to act in this country; we're doing a great job of inflicting it all on ourselves, thank you very much.


Goes all the way back to when the Europeans invaded this country and inflicted smallpox on the natives. A biological weapon.

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:16 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:When I see News of such conflagrations, I wonder if the terrorists are paying attention and getting "ideas." I'm serious.


We don't need terrorists to act in this country; we're doing a great job of inflicting it all on ourselves, thank you very much.


Goes all the way back to when the Europeans invaded this country and inflicted smallpox on the natives. A biological weapon.

That reasoning is somewhat specious, Hondo, IMO, since the spreading of that disease was not deliberate. It was accidental. No European deliberately sneezed on or struck his tongue down a Native's throat to infect them, for example.

Sorry, but demonizing European settlers just because they were Caucasians and explorers is something I find objectionable.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:42 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
We don't need terrorists to act in this country; we're doing a great job of inflicting it all on ourselves, thank you very much.


Goes all the way back to when the Europeans invaded this country and inflicted smallpox on the natives. A biological weapon.

That reasoning is somewhat specious, Hondo, IMO, since the spreading of that disease was not deliberate. I was accidental. No European deliberately sneezed on or struck his tongue down a Native's throat to infect them, for example.

Sorry, but demonizing European settlers just because they were Caucasians and explorers is something I find objectionable.


Specious is an understatement. The usual contrived disingenuous misdirection..... Accidental and an act of ignorance at the time. The transmittal of disease was not particularly well understood until a few years later.

Now whether Murph was accidental is not a topic that should be pursued.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:02 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:That reasoning is somewhat specious, Hondo, IMO, since the spreading of that disease was not deliberate. I was accidental. No European deliberately sneezed on or struck his tongue down a Native's throat to infect them, for example.

Sorry, but demonizing European settlers just because they were Caucasians and explorers is something I find objectionable.


I think these folks have a different viewpoint. They find what the Europeans did to them objectionable.

Native Americans mark Thanksgiving with day of mourning
https://news.yahoo.com/native-americans ... 03996.html

PLYMOUTH, Mass. (AP) — Thanksgiving is nothing to celebrate for Native Americans, who are gathering in the town where the Pilgrims settled for a solemn National Day of Mourning observance.

Thursday's noon gathering in downtown Plymouth, Massachusetts, will recall "the disease, racism and oppression" that the European settlers brought.

It's the 49th year that the United American Indians of New England have organized the event on Thanksgiving Day.

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:22 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:That reasoning is somewhat specious, Hondo, IMO, since the spreading of that disease was not deliberate. I was accidental. No European deliberately sneezed on or struck his tongue down a Native's throat to infect them, for example.

Sorry, but demonizing European settlers just because they were Caucasians and explorers is something I find objectionable.


I think these folks have a different viewpoint. They find what the Europeans did to them objectionable.

Native Americans mark Thanksgiving with day of mourning
https://news.yahoo.com/native-americans ... 03996.html

PLYMOUTH, Mass. (AP) — Thanksgiving is nothing to celebrate for Native Americans, who are gathering in the town where the Pilgrims settled for a solemn National Day of Mourning observance.

Thursday's noon gathering in downtown Plymouth, Massachusetts, will recall "the disease, racism and oppression" that the European settlers brought.

It's the 49th year that the United American Indians of New England have organized the event on Thanksgiving Day.


Well, that's like a lot of stuff these days - people find stuff to complain about that either isn't real or they just want to believe it's real because it justifies and validates themselves.

"the disease, racism and oppression" -- disease is hard to blame as no one then had any idea or understanding of how that even worked; I'm sure that they used something along the way of, "They should have known and used hand sanitizer....." - However, I'll give them the latter 2 - those are still in play.

Now, in today's world we have a bunch of gits putting others at risk by not vaccinating their kids...............and then when they get sick, somehow that's not their fault and we all end up shouldering more costs of stupidity.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:58 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:...
Now whether Murph was accidental is not a topic that should be pursued.

Just caught that typing error now and fixed it. Thanx. :mrgreen:

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:00 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:That reasoning is somewhat specious, Hondo, IMO, since the spreading of that disease was not deliberate. I was accidental. No European deliberately sneezed on or struck his tongue down a Native's throat to infect them, for example.

Sorry, but demonizing European settlers just because they were Caucasians and explorers is something I find objectionable.


I think these folks have a different viewpoint. They find what the Europeans did to them objectionable.
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Conquest is the history of the entire - the entire - world, not just Caucasians from Europe, including among the individual tribes/nations of Natives living in Africa and North and South America. They tortured and enslaved each other by the millions.

I would not even know where to look, geographically or historically, to find pure hearts. The Eskimos? Australia's Aborigines?
Shangri-La?

I await your instruction. Is class in session? One pupil is here, ready to learn and be enlightened, sir.

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby rogruth » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:45 pm

The "Native Americans" using Thanksgiving as a "Day of Mourning" started 49 years ago.
Hmmm. That would be 1969. Seems to me that is when a lot of things that we once
respected, admired and held dear were challenged by some. Some good came from those
challenges but some were not so good because, IMHO, our country has, little by little,
been torn apart.
Yes, some changes needed to be made but our country does not need to be destroyed.
I know that some of you can destroy anything that I say but I don't think it is time
for the U.S.A. to die yet.I support legal immigration and I support legal change to
the Constitution. I also support American English as a national language.
Otherwise we will be like Europe and be divided into many small countries with
little in common.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:22 am

Look at Columbus day. The name is now being changed to indigenous people day. They are even taking down statues of Columbus. He now has the reputation of a confederate general. They say he enslaved the people he encountered.

Bill de Blasio wanted the take down the statue in NYC. He backed off when he discovered he was going to have to fight all the Italians. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:26 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
I await your instruction. Is class in session? One pupil is here, ready to learn and be enlightened, sir.


Get on the buss, sit down and hang on because it's going to be a bumpy ride for at least the next 2 years as we encounter TOTAL GRIDLOCK. :wink: :mrgreen: It's going to be a fun circus to watch as all the clowns will be performing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:50 am

I believe you.

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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby rogruth » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:39 am

The only thing I believe is that even though the politicians all say that they are for the "common" person it is the common person who will pay the bills.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:05 am

.............the politicians all say that they are for the "common" person.........


Whenever they say that, I stop listening because that's when they are lying.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby rogruth » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:10 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
.............the politicians all say that they are for the "common" person.........


Whenever they say that, I stop listening because that's when they are lying.

Some say that is when their mouths are moving.
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Re: Climate Change Lawsuit

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:15 am

rogruth wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
.............the politicians all say that they are for the "common" person.........


Whenever they say that, I stop listening because that's when they are lying.

Some say that is when their mouths are moving.


On many, their mouths do not move at all - puppets and marrionettes
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