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Re: Question

Postby rex desilets » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 pm

Cotton stuffed in her ears? Well, she thought it was that bad.
Well, good, Rufus.
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Re: Question

Postby up148 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:01 pm

I would advise any serious BR fan to check it out for themselves. But, I realize now, more than ever, the original is a tough act to follow. Tried to go without any expectations so I wouldn't be disappointed, but I was anyway. :( :( :( :(

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:54 pm

rex desilets wrote:Cotton stuffed in her ears? Well, she thought it was that bad.


No. She thought it was that loud. On this I agree - movie soundtracks in theaters are played waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud.

Ok, I play my music loud (at times) and I still got to live concerts (LOUD! Going to see King Crimson in 2 weeks and expect to be deaf for a day), but I do not need my movies shaking me in my seat.

Well, good, Rufus.
Will be breathlessly awaiting your review


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Re: Question

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:56 pm

up148 wrote:I would advise any serious BR fan to check it out for themselves. But, I realize now, more than ever, the original is a tough act to follow. Tried to go without any expectations so I wouldn't be disappointed, but I was anyway.


It's almost impossible to be disappointed at some level - the 1st was just that good and holds up well 30 years later. There are exceedingly few movies that can meet that standard.

I don't know what to expect other than to be entertained. If I get more than that, then it's a success.
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Postby up148 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:28 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:Cotton stuffed in her ears? Well, she thought it was that bad.


No. She thought it was that loud. On this I agree - movie soundtracks in theaters are played waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud.

Ok, I play my music loud (at times) and I still got to live concerts (LOUD! Going to see King Crimson in 2 weeks and expect to be deaf for a day), but I do not need my movies shaking me in my seat.


I blame my hearing loss on producing and attending concerts in the late 60's and early 70's. Uriah Heep actually was painful during one of their encore songs. Put my hands over my ears, but that was little help by then. Not exactly sure what was caused the pain, as my ENT said ear drums feel nothing and the white noise/static/crickets in june you hear is their way of telling you they are damaged and in pain.

Dolby 7.1 is a killer when movie theatres try to prove to you just how loud and directional they can make it. Very neat concept, but we're going to be a nation of deaf moviegoers in the future. :shock: :shock:



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Re: Question

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:41 pm

up148 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rex desilets wrote:Cotton stuffed in her ears? Well, she thought it was that bad.


No. She thought it was that loud. On this I agree - movie soundtracks in theaters are played waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too loud.

Ok, I play my music loud (at times) and I still got to live concerts (LOUD! Going to see King Crimson in 2 weeks and expect to be deaf for a day), but I do not need my movies shaking me in my seat.


I blame my hearing loss on producing and attending concerts in the late 60's and early 70's. Uriah Heep actually was painful during one of their encore songs. Put my hands over my ears, but that was little help by then. Not exactly sure what was caused the pain, as my ENT said ear drums feel nothing and the white noise/static/crickets in june you hear is their way of telling you they are damaged and in pain.


Never thought of Heep as being particularly loud; later years they had 2 of my favorite bass players in that band, the late John Wetton and then Trevor Bolder. Bass lines can really damage the ears.....many years ago seeing Yes in Philly I thought that Chris Squire was going to collapse the Spectrum playing Amazing Grace.

I do look forward to seeing Crimson one more time - Fripp is over 70 yet still is amazing to watch play and produce the most amazing sounds; Tony Levin playing bass is always a joy to watch and hear.....

Dolby 7.1 is a killer when movie theatres try to prove to you just how loud and directional they can make it. Very neat concept, but we're going to be a nation of deaf moviegoers in the future.


Yes. It's painful overkill. If they really wanted us to have good sound, supply us with headphones and controls...
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Postby up148 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:57 am

Never thought of Heep as being particularly loud; later years they had 2 of my favorite bass players in that band, the late John Wetton and then Trevor Bolder. Bass lines can really damage the ears.....many years ago seeing Yes in Philly I thought that Chris Squire was going to collapse the Spectrum playing Amazing Grace.


Well, as I said, this was an encore and everyone took their turn at showing their "stuff". Lead guitarist (don't remember his names) went for notes that should have shattered windows. Most likely didn't help that for a few years we road around (frequently) on back roads in the country, in a VW hatchback with a great stereo turned up way too loud, trailing happy smoke all the while. :shock: :shock: I must admit, my already strong appreciation for good creative music increased considerably in that state of mind and has stayed with me all my life. Amazing what you can hear layered in good music if you just listen. :D :D :D

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:14 am

up148 wrote: Lead guitarist (don't remember his names) went for notes that should have shattered windows.


Might have been Mick Box?

Amazing what you can hear layered in good music if you just listen. :D :D :D


Sadly, not enough listen before condemning.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:57 am

up148 wrote:.... Amazing what you can hear layered in good music if you just listen. :D :D :D
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And that's an amazingly interesting statement, BH, one I'm going to be applying forevermore. I'm serious. That is quite an intriguing statement. I'm going to listen to some of Chopin's "Nocturnes," today, to see if what you have asserted applies even to such works, since I have concluded it was your intention to be all-inclusive. :)

And then I'll listen to "Sisters of Mercy," by Leonard Cohen. :)
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:16 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote: I'm going to listen to some of Chopin's "Nocturnes," .....


Try Messiaen's Etudes and Preludes, Bartok's 4th String Quartet, Crumb's Vox Balenae for 3 Masked Players, and then try Tool's Schism or Right in Two; I recommend the latter with the lyrics in hand, and then Glass's Koyaanisqatsi, preferable with the movie.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:19 am

Rufus, You have a gift for knowing how to reply - graciously - to other voices on a forum, and this list of recommendations is a fine example of that power in you. Thank you. I will write them all down in my notebook and explore them, one by one. Thank you, most sincerely.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:25 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Rufus, You have a gift for knowing how to reply - graciously - to other voices on a forum, and this list of recommendations is a fine example of that power in you. Thank you. I will write them all down in my notebook and explore them, one by one. Thank you, most sincerely.
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I can at times, :mrgreen:

Well, they are all challenging in their own rights; I could also recommend the complete works of Webern, some Schoenberg, a little Stockhausen, Zappa's Yellow Shark, and maybe a Berg opera.

All will test you but all have value. Do include Cage's 4'33..........at night with the window open after a glass or 3 of your favorite libation with everything else off.

And, of course, do include Ives' The Unanswered Question
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:36 am

Thank you, again. They are all recorded in the Notebook of Future Wonders, ready for the adventure.

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Postby robert. » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:03 pm

I saw that yes show 90125. In 1984. I was 15. I can't remember if anybody opened for them or if it was a bugs bunny cartoon show for half an hour.
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Re: Question

Postby rex desilets » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:17 pm

Jeez, Rufus, all the compositions you've named are unlistenable. For me, anything by Glass heads the list.
Whatever happened to Bach, Mozart, et al??
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