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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby AG » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:46 pm

Happy BEER-DAY!!!!!
and thank for the update about your dad!!
the best for him and you!
Andre.!!
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby choochin3 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:02 pm

Happy B-day Marty,
I'll buy the next round,but I'll pass on seeing Jon do a table dance.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby hev52 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:28 pm

Happy Birthday there Marty. Glad to hear your Pop is doin' good.
Drink up Bo................................ :mrgreen:




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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby webenda » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:10 am

MartyE wrote:You'll have to wait til midnight to make it official. But I'll take a beer.

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You got it Marty. Gomer, next round is on me.

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:45 am

Happy birthday, Marty!! Many happy returns!

Great news about your Pop!

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:32 pm

Hey hey HEY!

Some of you are aware of my passion for the Bloomsburg and Sullivan Railroad, a 27 mile shortline that ran through Orangeville and up the valley below the hill on which I reside.

Well I saw a postcard for sale on ebay, of a section of Fishing Creek on whose banks ran the tracks of the B&S, so I bid on it and won. The picture on ebay was blurry, so I thought I was only getting a picture of the tracks.

Lo and behold, when it arrived, there is a B&S freight passing dead-center!!

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The picture must have been taken from the bridge in the next photo, but if one were to have stood on the tracks maybe 100 yards ahead of the engine and taken a picture looking away from the train, they would see this...

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...where the tracks curl around the cliff to head into the town of Bloomsburg, it's southern terminus, where it interchanged with the Philadelphia & Reading RR, and the Lackawanna & Bloomsburg RR, (later to become part of the DL&W).
And from beyond the bridge, looking back. The 'trailer' up on the hill was the Crag Mansion. The lady of the house (or more likely, the servants) doubtless had much dusting to do from the cinders rising from below.

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The creek obviously was well-used! The Redhead herself used to swim in it, having once lived, as a kid, in a home along the creek to the left of that bridge, though in her time, it had been replaced by a concrete bridge.
Alas, that mansion later became a fraternity from Bloomsburg University, where it's splendor quickly deteriorated. A couple of years ago, it gained notoriety when a frat member ran out the back to avoid a police raid, and went over the cliff in the dark, to his death.

Closeups of the B&S...

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It obviously is carrying a load of lumber down from the CPL Lumber Co. in Jamison City, the B&S's northern terminus. Back in the days of environmental disconcern, loggers basically clear-cut the mountainside, and once the lumber was gone, Jamison City's heyday was past.

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Much of the available lumber was virgin hemlock, whose bark was needed for tanning, so it was natural to have a tannery alongside a sawmill, and hides were another source of freight.

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Just before the bend in the creek in the new postcard, the track approached from the left in that picture, where sat the water company, which pumped water up into this open-air reservoir above Bloomsburg. The covered bridge can be seen over the creek below the reservoir. In the distance, the Susquehanna River, and across the open fields between town and river ran the Pennsylvania Canal along the river.

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Here's the water company.

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The #1 arrows point out the trackline, and behind it Iron Street, later to become Rt. 42. The #2 arrows point out an iron furnace and it's ash pile.
Here's the ash pile from the other side of the creek.

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The Bloomsburg & Sullivan RR (under another name) was originally only a mile long, built to transport iron from that furnace down to the canal to be shipped. Only later was it extended up the Fishing Creek valley.
Much iron ore was in Montour Ridge immediately to the right, which ridge continued left and south to the town of Danville where I work, home of a huge Iron mill. Evidently, there was some labor unrest at the time.

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This mill became famous for using that iron ore, along with the abundant local limestone, and the readily available anthracite coal fields just upriver, to make the first iron rails in this country!

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Another interesting thing about that B&S train is that the last car is a passenger car. It was well-known local history that the B&S would take "ladies" arriving from Philadelphia, on Fridays, up to Jamison City to help unload the loggers of their paychecks over the weekends.
I like to think that this train, carrying all that lumber, was running on a Monday morning, with the last car carrying the "ladies" back to Bloomsburg to change for the Philadelphia and Reading RR.

Matter-of fact, I tried to peek in the windows, but couldn't procure sufficient evidence.

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They'd all have been dog-tired anyway! :wink:
Well, that's it.
How about we all break for lunch...

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Tramp » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:29 pm

Pete, thanks for that post. Great stuff. That last image is such a classic. The handwriting about the strike is lovely.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Mitch » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:28 pm

Good history lesson, Pete. I always did think that "high steel men" were crazy. 50 stories up, and the guy on the right has a bottle of gin in his hand! :shock: :lol:
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby The Dirt » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:54 pm

Tramp and Mitch, thanks. I wasn't expecting anybody to comment. I just got excited about what I found on that postcard, (simple pleasures for a very simple mind), and the post was for me- I had all my fun in organizing it and putting it together. It's surprising how much local history can be found in postcards, but it won't mean anything to anyone who doesn't know the area.

Too bad Bloomsburg had not the foresight to save some remnant of the canal. There was a lock close by where the 'port' was located where the railroad terminated. All that would have been a beautiful little piece of history saved. All gone- all filled in.

BTW, the ironmaster of that ironworks had a beautiful stone home, located between the Water Co. and the furnace, which is now a B&B, and is where I was going to sequester you, Tramp, if you ever came down to visit. (Since I would be loathe to leave you and the Redhead alone together in my absence :wink: )

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby 2railjon » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:16 pm

Great pictures and story, Pete!!! I was just going through O. Winston Link's "The Last Steam Railroad In America"/"Steam Steel & Stars books and could fall through those pictures into that era in a minute!!!!
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W. A. Miller mans the old gravity feed pump at the Vesuvius General Store as the No. 2 goes up the valley.
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Virginia Creeper pulls into Green Cove. A mixed freight and passenger abandoned by the N&W in 1977.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:50 pm

Dirt and Jon,

Great info and pics.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby MartyE » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:22 pm

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! Great pictures. Love those old black and whites.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby rogruth » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:38 pm

Happy Birthday to everyone who wants one this year.

I don't need anymore.

But I will drink a beer with anyone.
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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby JIM2223 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:31 am

I'll drink to that!

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Re: Hobo Jungle

Postby Del Mar » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:50 am

Marty,

Happy birthday my good hobo. Good news about your father. I know he, you, and your family will weather the uncertainties. We will continue praying for you and yours as this works out.

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